Beginning to feel suicidal

[MysteriousTelephone]

And don’t forget, there have been plenty of good looking people that have had terrible relationships and multiple failed marriages and disastrous lives. Oh, and plenty that began good looking and ended up hideous. Some earlier than others.

I'm not looking for a marriage right now, I know it's a risk anyone takes when they decide to tie the knot. Really what I want is just to be found attractive by more people than zero. That's all I want right now.

 

[MysteriousTelephone]

This is a hard question, the dating scene is hard these days, I know if I was a lot younger it wouldn't be so hard, all I can say is don't give up, yes it does take a lot of time, but just don't give up, do you go to church? Maybe you can go online and find a church and start going to church.

I'm not a religious individual, and the G-man is not going to fulfil the empty hole I have, despite what they may promise.

 

[Unsigned]

I hate to be the bearer of sad tidings, but of the various reasons men pay escorts, honest opinions is not one of them. These are professionals whose sole occupation is to make you feel like a king, so that you may hire them again. They absolutely would not say "You know what? You are awful looking, and if I wasn't on your money for an hourly rate, I wouldn't look twice at you."

Not that you needed the confirmation, but I can vouch that this is 100% true.

Now...there are certainly men whom they will NOT see for various reasons.
Too fat, smelly, weird, crazy, dangerous, stupid, and yeah, even ugly.
But if they do see you, they won't criticize you to your face unless you really get out of line.
I have been told the older Asian ones (I do not see older women) have less of a filter and might make off comments to fat guys, like "hey...you need gym", or pat their stomach and say "haha...too much pizza". But in general, yeah they want to earn and you don't do that by insulting the clientele.

 

[okidoke]

I don't know, I've never seen a woman who is incapable of finding a man. Even women who are grossly overweight are either with partners or dating. Despite the breakdown being roughly 50/50, there is a power dynamic in that women tend to be more sought after than men.

The vagina is overwhelmingly powerful to some some men, and women know it.

 

[TheRealCallie]

You know, if every single woman checked no for you, I would maybe think that it's not necessarily your looks, but that you didn't make a good first impression. Maybe you talked about the wrong thing, maybe it was your tone of voice, maybe it was your body language, maybe you talked too much (or not enough) about yourself. I've never done speed dating, but I would imagine that the first impression is pretty damn important in that setting.

 

[MysteriousTelephone]

You know, if every single woman checked no for you, I would maybe think that it's not necessarily your looks, but that you didn't make a good first impression. Maybe you talked about the wrong thing, maybe it was your tone of voice, maybe it was your body language, maybe you talked too much (or not enough) about yourself. I've never done speed dating, but I would imagine that the first impression is pretty **** important in that setting.

It's hard to say, you've only got 4 minutes per person. I'm not so naive as to say I was absolutely perfect, but I made people laugh and showed genuine interest as to what they did for fun. Nobody asked me where I lived or what car I drove, all they knew is that I am a muscular engineer who can make them laugh, and 100% of them still said 'no'.

 

[mr.meeseeks]

have you considered trying your luck in SEA? Cambodia/Philippines
the woman there live in sub par conditions which has a positive impact on their attitude towards foreigner men.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

I have figured it out! Finally…. I know I am right this is finally the reason however, I think at this point, its time to stop considering what could or could not be wrong with you You should think about the positives and try to find value in your life in other ways.

You shouldn't feel so low as to want to hurt yourself in anyway, and because you do, I suggest you get help for that first hun.

Women aren't worth it… I should know I am one. Lack of attention, sex, even love from any of us is not a good enough reason to not be here.

Once you are well you will get want you want and I will give you literal instructions

 

[mr.meeseeks]

Awh this i’m really sad to read this, I’m sure you’re just not thinking straight. You arent a ugly man at all. Means little coming from a random hot girl on the internet but truth is truth. I genuinely wish you could turn off the inner doubts, as they may be setting you up for failure.

Now I am not sure why you aren't having success in the dating market… I tried very hard to find a reason but I cant. It might be how you act with money more so than not having any… thats my last suspicion.

Only thing I can say is please dont give up, I know you will find a woman who feels just as lucky to have you as you do her. Sounds like fairytales but I promise you anything is possible

Be kind to yourself

Ceno x

you're gas lighting him pretty hard there.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

you're gas lighting him pretty hard there.

Hmm care to explain how?

 

[Cherubino]

dating sites and apps are a marvel for all of us and we are blessed to live in this age ... first you can easily filter out from the start what is / isn't suitable ... then you can be spared the embarrassment or pain to reject / being rejected with no need to meet in person, just after some honest and to the point conversation, all under the protection of anonymity ... and the selection pool is extended to the entire country and world

 

[mr.meeseeks]

Hmm care to explain how?

you are dismissing his experience, while selling him a false sense of hope.

unless someone is SMV 8 and above he has no way to get validation from women(free skinship).

you could also be telling him:
don't worry, you are still young you may win the lottery ruffle.
winning the lottery would have a bigger possibility than getting a girlfriend
if you aren't a male model.

that is a man's experience with girls nowadays, and you are dismissing it, and it's wrong to do so!

you say you don't think he is ugly, have you offered to date him?
have you even seen him?

inner doubts, aren't what's setting him up for failure, it's his height and looks.

most girls are in a harem relationship with a Chad or a Tyrone. these chadrones are so swamped with free sex the women are making dick appointments, which leaves many lonely men behind.

you say:
"Only thing I can say is please dont give up, I know you will find a woman who feels just as lucky to have you as you do her. Sounds like fairytales but I promise you anything is possible"

do you even comprehend the negative emotions this gas lighting causes?!
based on what are you promising him this fairytales?

based on your experience as a woman?
a woman can get a match in less time it takes to boil an egg.

it's kind of like when a father loses his son in a car accident or army battle and
people tell him: "you should have prayed harder, maybe god will revive your dead son if you pray harder".

 

[TropicalStarfish]

@mr.meeseeks Please stay on topic. This isn't your thread. A fellow member has confided in us about their suffering in life. This is not the place to start an argument. Your experiences are unique as well as your positions and viewpoints in life; but, this thread has a topic relevant to the OP (Original Poster).

And please, everyone, if you would, try to understand, that sometimes some one just wants to be heard/understood. They aren't necessarily looking for a, 'fix,' or a, 'suggestion,' or a, 'solution.' It's okay to make a suggestion and try to help in your own way; but, please don't go overboard with it. Knock once. No answer? Knock a second time. No answer? Move on, or try another approach, or come back later. Sometimes people just aren't home at the moment, but they may return later.

Sometimes life hurts; and we just need to know some one out there cares, or understands, or just knows.

 

[mr.meeseeks]

@mr.meeseeks Please stay on topic. This isn't your thread. A fellow member has confided in us about their suffering in life. This is not the place to start an argument. Your experiences are unique as well as your positions and viewpoints in life; but, this thread has a topic relevant to the OP (Original Poster).

And please, everyone, if you would, try to understand, that sometimes some one just wants to be heard/understood. They aren't necessarily looking for a, 'fix,' or a, 'suggestion,' or a, 'solution.' It's okay to make a suggestion and try to help in your own way; but, please don't go overboard with it. Knock once. No answer? Knock a second time. No answer? Move on, or try another approach, or come back later. Sometimes people just aren't home at the moment, but they may return later.

Sometimes life hurts; and we just need to know some one out there cares, or understands, or just knows.

I don't think you should be speaking on OP's behalf.

 

[MysteriousTelephone]

have you considered trying your luck in SEA? Cambodia/Philippines
the woman there live in sub par conditions which has a positive impact on their attitude towards foreigner men.

I appreciate the thought, but I'm not moving to the Philippines, or "importing a bride" as they say.

 

[MysteriousTelephone]

I have figured it out! Finally…. I know I am right this is finally the reason however, I think at this point, its time to stop considering what could or could not be wrong with you You should think about the positives and try to find value in your life in other ways.

You shouldn't feel so low as to want to hurt yourself in anyway, and because you do, I suggest you get help for that first hun.

Women aren't worth it… I should know I am one. Lack of attention, sex, even love from any of us is not a good enough reason to not be here.

Once you are well you will get want you want and I will give you literal instructions

Please, any information would be most helpful. Message me if you feel it's a better environment.

 

[MysteriousTelephone]

dating sites and apps are a marvel for all of us and we are blessed to live in this age ... first you can easily filter out from the start what is / isn't suitable ... then you can be spared the embarrassment or pain to reject / being rejected with no need to meet in person, just after some honest and to the point conversation, all under the protection of anonymity ... and the selection pool is extended to the entire country and world

Absolutely, and many of my other friends have done very well on dating apps. Not "a different woman every week", but they had matches, some of them turned into long term partners. I get zero matches. Zero. Save for the occasional bot/spam, women are selecting, and they're not selecting me.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

you are dismissing his experience, while selling him a false sense of hope.

unless someone is SMV 8 and above he has no way to get validation from women(free skinship).

you could also be telling him:
don't worry, you are still young you may win the lottery ruffle.
winning the lottery would have a bigger possibility than getting a girlfriend
if you aren't a male model.

that is a man's experience with girls nowadays, and you are dismissing it, and it's wrong to do so!

you say you don't think he is ugly, have you offered to date him?
have you even seen him?

inner doubts, aren't what's setting him up for failure, it's his height and looks.

most girls are in a harem relationship with a Chad or a Tyrone. these chadrones are so swamped with free sex the women are making dick appointments, which leaves many lonely men behind.

you say:
"Only thing I can say is please dont give up, I know you will find a woman who feels just as lucky to have you as you do her. Sounds like fairytales but I promise you anything is possible"

do you even comprehend the negative emotions this gas lighting causes?!
based on what are you promising him this fairytales?

based on your experience as a woman?
a woman can get a match in less time it takes to boil an egg.

it's kind of like when a father loses his son in a car accident or army battle and
people tell him: "you should have prayed harder, maybe god will revive your dead son if you pray harder".

Ah I understand sir, I see where you are coming from but my advice for OP is specific to him, its not to dismiss the woes of all men. Its not to dismiss his woes either, not at all.

I see love in his future when he’s ready, as of now, he is not, he needs help and support.

I am the first person to know im privileged, I dont have to try hard for all attention to be diverted to me, it’s actually hard to get the attention off me… which is more stressful than it sounds to people who suffer with the opposite problem.

OP needs the attention right now let’s be kind enough to keep this about his situation.

 

[Cherubino]

Absolutely, and many of my other friends have done very well on dating apps. Not "a different woman every week", but they had matches, some of them turned into long term partners. I get zero matches. Zero. Save for the occasional bot/spam, women are selecting, and they're not selecting me.

what or who does the matching ... an algorithm? ... I'm on a dating site for "normal" people because we don't have one for disabled in my country ... in my description section there I specify my shortcomings precisely because I don't have time to waste and they must know from the beginning ... naturally 99 percent of the women I write to give a zero or negative response as expected ... you're an engineer so I guess you know how to spot the failing part in your dating profile too

 

[TheRealCallie]

I get zero matches.

Which ones are you using? I swear if you say Tinder I'm going to get out my frying pan. lol