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The dude does not have a mental issue or anger issues. Christ me, his child did something she shouldn't have... Is nearly everyone overlooking the fact that SHE did something she shouldn't have...

It's not the dad who's grounded. Goodness Christ, people.
 
VanillaCreme said:
The dude does not have a mental issue or anger issues. Christ me, his child did something she shouldn't have... Is nearly everyone overlooking the fact that SHE did something she shouldn't have...

It's not the dad who's grounded. Goodness Christ, people.

Yeah she did do something wrong but ground her or take the laptop away or a hundred other things. Shooting it? that was really the best thing to do? Then posting the video online? Honestly don't make me laugh.

 
So you say that shooting a $600 laptop, one that could be sold and feed and clothe tons of hungry, starving children, was a sane act?

It's not like he shot a deer. He shot a laptop, one that costs money. He destroyed something, because his child was acting like a teenager?

He IS a child, for christ sakes! I'd even wager that the teenage girl is more mature than he is!
 
When you have children, punish them how you feel is correct. That's his child. And he ruined a laptop - which I admit was kind of stupid - that he probably paid for. Stupid or not, he can ruin his own property.
 
So, if I wanted to rip up all of my clothes, except for a few, I have the right to do that? Being that I paid for them, right?

What if the Salvation Army wanted those clothes? I say, "Sorry, but I, in a fit of anger, tore up those clothes that a needy child could wear?" What do you think they would say to that?

Same thing here. There are some people out there who can't afford laptops. This guy can afford a housekeeper! Obviously, he's rich, or at least well off. He doesn't have to shove it in our face.

I would love to go see Van Halen, but I can't afford the concert tickets. They are one of my favorite bands, in the original lineup (which is my favorite.) However, I need to pay for food. All the while, some crazy hillbilly dude on a farm goes and shoots an expensive laptop, with expensive guns.

Please excuse me if I don't feel bad for the guy.
 
Ultra liberal alarm is going off. I don't support the salvation army nopes. They turned me away from volunteering because I didn't belong to a church. Either way, you can do whatever you want with your property. It's not his fault people are starving or that others don't have what he has. I can almost guarantee the money he would have gotten from taking the laptop back would not have gone to charity.

He said in the video the housekeeper was a volunteer, and it's not like he marketed the video or put it on national television. He's not shoving it in anyone's face. This video was only meant to be seen by a small group of people. Probably all in similar economical situations.
 
kamya said:
Ultra liberal alarm is going off. I don't support the salvation army nopes. They turned me away from volunteering because I didn't belong to a church. Either way, you can do whatever you want with your property. It's not his fault people are starving or that others don't have what he has. I can almost guarantee the money he would have gotten from taking the laptop back would not have gone to charity.

He said in the video the housekeeper was a volunteer, and it's not like he marketed the video or put it on national television. He's not shoving it in anyone's face. This video was only meant to be seen by a small group of people. Probably all in similar economical situations.

Exactly.

The dads reaction to the video and comments.

http://www.litefm.com/pages/news-story.html?feed=421220&article=9744152

Some quotes from the text:

''There are too many other REAL issues out there that could use this attention you're giving us.''

''It wasn't any parent-hacking, computer spying, or monitoring of any kind.. the dog actually ratted her out completely by accident. She hasn't petted that dog all day today...''

''Our kids are as strong as we help them to be. My daughter took a horrible day in her life, had her crying fit, then got over it, accepted her punishment, and hasn’t let it (or people’s comments) destroy her strength.''

''Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people… originally. I had no idea it would become what it did.''

''This time, she won’t ever forget and it’ll be a long time before she has an opportunity to post on Facebook again. I feel pretty certain that every day from then to now, whenever one of her friends mentions Facebook, she’ll remember it and wish she hadn’t done what she did.''

''People were telling her she was going to commit suicide, commit a gun-related crime, become a drug addict, drop out of school, get pregnant on purpose, and become a stripper because she’s too emotionally damaged now to be a productive member of society. Apparently stripper was the job-choice of most of the commenters. Her response was “Dude… it’s only a computer. I mean, yeah I’m mad but pfft.”
(If you look it at that way, all the people saying the dad is to harsh etc. they are doing more damage then the dad could ever do with this video.)

''The second lesson I want her to learn is the value of a dollar.''

''But if you’re too lazy to work even to get things you want for yourself, I’m certainly not going to let you sit idly on your rear-end with your face glued to both the TV and Facebook for 5 to 6 hours per night. Those days are over.''

Read more: http://www.litefm.com/pages/news-story.html?feed=421220&article=9744152#ixzz1mFmtOwCH

O yeah and for LeaningintotheMuse:

''One person even suggested collecting the shell casings and auctioning them on eBay. I said I’d do it if it would help contribute to her college fund!''

So if you guys still think he's angry, unreasonable a lunatic or has mental issueas while still being able to write such a text: Sorry but then you're a narrow-minded *******, that hasnt got a clue how most things work in a family or the world for that matter.

 
I wish I had some sort of opinion on this aside from mild amusement. I guess the only thing I can think of is, I question if kids in teenage years are still capable of learning life values and such either through those methods or what they learn from others through more general means.

I mean at that age for me, I was able to at least see the forest for the trees and know that everything I didn't like that my parents did, they did because they felt like they were teaching me something. I don't feel I learned anything because I knew that was the reason, as I was too focused on that instead of the lesson. How do you train someone to a certain way of thinking once they realize they're being trained?
 
So am I the only one that noticed he never once smoked that cigarette he's holding. So wasteful (no)
 
Tear of the Goddess said:
So if you guys still think he's angry, unreasonable a lunatic or has mental issueas while still being able to write such a text: Sorry but then you're a narrow-minded *******, that hasnt got a clue how most things work in a family or the world for that matter.

Tear of the Goddess said:
So please, think twice before you judge a dad or parents for that matter. Without knowing anything about the family

Now who's being judgamental? :rolleyes:

It's a diference of opinion. You shouldn't get mad and insult ppl with diferent opinion. It only makes you look innmature. Arguments... are better in my opinion. Even better when they're not copypaste...

Those who posted the comment are most likely US citizens from the south, they have a gun culture that tolerates violence...

kamya said:
Ultra liberal alarm is going off. I don't support the salvation army nopes. They turned me away from volunteering because I didn't belong to a church. Either way, you can do whatever you want with your property. It's not his fault people are starving or that others don't have what he has. I can almost guarantee the money he would have gotten from taking the laptop back would not have gone to charity.

He said in the video the housekeeper was a volunteer, and it's not like he marketed the video or put it on national television. He's not shoving it in anyone's face. This video was only meant to be seen by a small group of people. Probably all in similar economical situations.

You can shoot anything you own if you want but doing it in a world where people starve and die only adds to the violence and despicability of the act.

Any video or image you put in the internet belongs to the internet and can and most likely will be reproduced if the content is amusing in some way. It's clear people love watching this kind of thing... Cmon... He should have known. You are underestimating the power of social networks.

Callie said:
So am I the only one that noticed he never once smoked that cigarette he's holding. So wasteful (no)

Obviously he was thinking clearly :p
 
LeaningIntoTheMuse said:
So, if I wanted to rip up all of my clothes, except for a few, I have the right to do that? Being that I paid for them, right?

You can if you want to. They're yours, and you'd have to replace them, but still, it's yours to do what you want. I'm not even going to entertain the rest of what you said, because that's being overly dramatic about it.
 
Felix said:
Tear of the Goddess said:
So if you guys still think he's angry, unreasonable a lunatic or has mental issueas while still being able to write such a text: Sorry but then you're a narrow-minded *******, that hasnt got a clue how most things work in a family or the world for that matter.

Tear of the Goddess said:
So please, think twice before you judge a dad or parents for that matter. Without knowing anything about the family

Now who's being judgamental? :rolleyes:

It's a diference of opinion. You shouldn't get mad and insult ppl with diferent opinion. It only makes you look innmature. Arguments... are better in my opinion. Even better when they're not copypaste...

Those who posted the comment are most likely US citizens from the south, they have a gun culture that tolerates violence...

kamya said:
Ultra liberal alarm is going off. I don't support the salvation army nopes. They turned me away from volunteering because I didn't belong to a church. Either way, you can do whatever you want with your property. It's not his fault people are starving or that others don't have what he has. I can almost guarantee the money he would have gotten from taking the laptop back would not have gone to charity.

He said in the video the housekeeper was a volunteer, and it's not like he marketed the video or put it on national television. He's not shoving it in anyone's face. This video was only meant to be seen by a small group of people. Probably all in similar economical situations.

You can shoot anything you own if you want but doing it in a world where people starve and die only adds to the violence and despicability of the act.

Any video or image you put in the internet belongs to the internet and can and most likely will be reproduced if the content is amusing in some way. It's clear people love watching this kind of thing... Cmon... He should have known. You are underestimating the power of social networks.

Callie said:
So am I the only one that noticed he never once smoked that cigarette he's holding. So wasteful (no)

Obviously he was thinking clearly :p



Seriously?

Thats all you came up with? and im not mad at all.

Felix said:
Well as long as we are clear on that :rolleyes:
You're obviously the mature one here.

So i made enough arguments in previous posts, and now constructively supporting them with some ''copypaste'' makes them worthless or just an opinion?

Also, I'm dutch and we do not have a gun culture at all. Still i'm not sure why you would call this violence, when he beats up his daughter is violence not this. (but hey thats opinion isn't it?)

It's almost sad how hard you try to make my argument (or opinion)invalid by not even trying to wrong me about the subject, but purely by giving critcism on how i react and what i post. And i'm the immature one? I can't even take you serious like this.
 
*looks at the bickering above* Oh the drama!

LeaningIntoTheMuse said:
But why shoot a perfectly good laptop?

There are kids starving in America, or homeless. The better lesson would be to donate it to charity, not destroy it.

That is akin to me grabbing $600 (rough estimate of what the laptop costs), or $730 (with the upgrades he said he did), and ripping it up and throwing it down the toilet. All the while, some poor kid down the street is on the street corner, trying to fight for food.

Ditto. I get the feeling he was just looking for an excuse to shoot something and show off while he's at it.

 
No more bickering, name calling, or insulting other members. People are entitled to their own opinion.

Respect each others opinions and leave it at that.
 
I agree with TheMuse, what a wasteful punishment. He could have easily wiped the HD clean, reinstalled the OS, and donated it to someone else who needed a good PC (it looked like one of those high-end entertainment notebooks). And I believe he could have handled the situation with his daughter just as well, if not better, without destroying it. What he displayed was his total rage and not a precise lesson of good parenting. This will surely backfire and only lead to greater resent and disrespect from his daughter to her family. I guess he couldn't pass up the fun of shooting at a laptop. Git R Dun!
 
He could have, but it was his property. I would have kept it for myself, to do silly stuff on.
 
I just watched this video with my part time employee, he's 16, he started working for me shortly after he turned 15. I could think of some better uses for the laptop but I do not think this father went too far. My part timer actually laughed when the father shot it. He felt the father was justified in what he had done, and that after what the father wrote that his daughter is very ungrateful. He also thought that the father shooting the laptop was an excellent demonstration tool. It sends a messages and gets your attention. That was all from a 16 year old. My part timer when on to compare himself to this father's daughter. He works TWO jobs, he bought all the clothes he was wearing today, his jeans, his shoes, his socks, his boxers, his t-shirt, his flannel shirt, he even told me he buys his own deodorant, body wash, pays for his own hair cuts, buys his own razors, bought his own cell phone, the fancy case for his cell phone, his own ipod, and he still has chores to do at home, as well as hours of home work. He's even taken his parents out for diner on several occasions to help out after his mother had to quit her job. He still talks smack about his parents, like all teenagers do, he has complained about what his parents expect him to do each day, including cleaning his own room and doing his own laundry. A perspective from a 16 year old who is asked to do the same amount of chores this girl is asked of, yet also has a job to buy his own things instead of expecting his parents to do it.

I was actually impressed with my part timer, I expected him to side with the guys daughter, not the parent. Showed an impressive level of maturity. He also made the observation that if the parent is able to buy all these things for their daughter, and since he works in IT that the family is obviously not hurting for money. A privileged child who doesn't respect what she has and how hard her parents work for it.

The only rage I saw this parent display was the rage of having a child who doesn't expect to have to do any work for the things her parents buy her.
 
No one is arguing that the child didn't do anything wrong. The problem is that his way of dealing with things smacks of 19th century mentality. He might as well have asked her to settle it with a duel. Contrary to what has been said here, there is such a thing as bad parenting. Shooting your child's laptop to send a message is not only wasteful but immature, and it will only make her more rebellious. It's obvious that this guy was motivated by anger and not good intention. Even more blatant is that he was trying to be a big shot, with his for-video cigarette and gun, and people bought right into it.
 
Personally, the way I see it... it's a publicity stunt. It's too orchestrated and please, like the dude really didn't know it would go viral?
 

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