Claudia1794
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Gotcha. I don’t know what it’s like to be a 40 year old virgin man and you don’t know what it’s like being a red head. Good talk
The forum was never representative.
It means what people say on this forum is not accurate (unless, of course they agree with him)Why? What does this mean?
It just means the 'sample' of humanity who post on loneliness forums aren't representative of society.
Add a cambric shirt without no seam nor needle work, and an acre of land between the salt water and the sea strand, and then shell be a true love of mineIt just means the 'sample' of humanity who post on loneliness forums aren't representative of society.
"I actually wish i was a virgin, cause for as long as i can remember i always just dreamt of being with one for life, and i wanted to be hers and hers alone."
She should come with a dowry of at least 50 bales of hay, and an ox (/s)
Agree. Masculinity is a requirement for a man to get into relationships but it requires killing the part of himself that values those relationships (so as not to appear overly invested, vulnerable and therefore unmanly.)And the reason why it's a paradox is:
In order for a man to develop the mental fortitude and physical prowess to keep a woman interested and satisfied, requires that a man sacrifices all of the characteristic traits that he has that make him want to have a woman in his life in the first place.
It's a Paradox.
As a man if you are confident in yourself and your abilities and in better understanding and control of your emotions, you can probably get any woman that you want.
And the reason why it's a paradox is:
In order for a man to develop the mental fortitude and physical prowess to keep a woman interested and satisfied, requires that a man sacrifices all of the characteristic traits that he has that make him want to have a woman in his life in the first place.
And that's the paradox.
By the time you can pull it off, instead of it being this coveted and sacred thing, it is then meaningless to you because of what you had to go through to be able to pull it off.
But the point that a lot of men tend to miss with it, is that often times in life the road is more important than the goal. The point of a long journey with a mystical guru is to eventually find out that you don't actually need the mystics advice, that what empowerment one derives from the guru, one already had within himself and just needed a little bit of direction to find the way for himself.
Such is the exact same with this sacrifice we men make for women.
The woman is not the point, the woman is besides the point.
And a large part of the frustration and conflict that happens is a result of her kind of knowing that already, and him not understanding it, which makes him seem uncertain, and his uncertainty diminishes his confidence, and his lack of confidence is no longer attractive to her.
That's why micromanaging a woman is challenging for men, because more often times than not they fall short of seeing the other end of the rope in the handfasting that ties her to him as well.
What that basically means is, that on average men are just taught about love wrong.
That's what that means.
And I'd argue that equally women are also probably taught about love wrong.
After all we have to consider that our parents who socially indoctrinated us into this ******** system were likely themselves socially indoctrinated into this ******** system by their parents, kind of snowballing backwards down the hill parallel to the evolution of both religion and civilization over the course of thousands of years. Because, well, Ben Franklin was right about one other thing other than electricity, "the only certainties in life are death and taxes."
Although I don't think if old Ben really knew the historical depth to which he spoke of at that time or not. Maybe, IDK. Guy was probably a huge stoner. Do you know how stoned you have to be to think about electricity, before the discovery of electricity?
The point is that the woman is part of the journey, yes, but she's not the reason you're on the journey, and due to the way we are raised it is very, very easy to forget that.
I honestly agree, I don't think life is as easy for men as people paint out. It's not as hard as being a woman biologically (just biological functions and blah blah), but it's hard mentally and because men aren't supposed to let that show, it looks like they are all just having fun in the sun being men... having a easy ride.
The thing that gets me about men is, most men that are upset, are upset about lack of access to women. I just cant imagine that... even when I was ignored by men it didn't upset me that much. I was sad though, I won't lie about that.
Very true, a lot of people hate me and my ex because we do not count pennies so to speak. We come from a different class, and because of that, it is not easy for us to understand the working class very well. I dont know any man who complains of paying for anything for me let alone a first date. Thats something my working class friends struggle with.Poor people often hate rich people because they do not understand the problems that rich people suffer. Rich people often hate poor people because they do not understand the problems that poor people suffer. It's a very similar situation to that.
Men that do not have access to women hate women and the men that have access to women because they do not understand the problems that women have and the problems that men who have access to women have. Women and men that have access to women hate men who do not have access to women because they do not understand what it is like to spend the brunt of a lifetime surrounded by seeing what everyone else is experiencing that they cannot themselves experience and so it makes them feel very caged, like there is something legitimately wrong with them other than what is actually wrong with them, which is their mental state and stance on the situation.
Very true, a lot of people hate me and my ex because we do not count pennies so to speak. We come from a different class, and because of that, it is not easy for us to understand the working class very well. I dont know any man who complains of paying for anything for me let alone a first date. Thats something my working class friends struggle with.
I've never hated men that couldn't get women, but maybe thats because I have experienced it in reverse. I think thats why it intrigues me. Relationships in general, but also people who find themselves unable to successfully find someone. The thing I hate about some men who do not have access to women is... it makes them a little weird sometimes. They "fall in love" easily as a simple conversation is like a night of passionate sex to them. It's like a simple touch on the hand to a man who has been in prison for 20 years, this can make me feel like an object, rather than a person.
Very true, a lot of people hate me and my ex because we do not count pennies so to speak. We come from a different class, and because of that, it is not easy for us to understand the working class very well. I dont know any man who complains of paying for anything for me let alone a first date. Thats something my working class friends struggle with.
I've never hated men that couldn't get women, but maybe thats because I have experienced it in reverse. I think thats why it intrigues me. Relationships in general, but also people who find themselves unable to successfully find someone. The thing I hate about some men who do not have access to women is... it makes them a little weird sometimes. They "fall in love" easily as a simple conversation is like a night of passionate sex to them. It's like a simple touch on the hand to a man who has been in prison for 20 years, this can make me feel like an object, rather than a person.
Trying to tell me something here i guess …They're desperate for any sign of acceptance. The woman who provides that is basically interchangeable (whether it's genuine friendliness, or simple politeness misconstrued as friendliness). It's symbolic. Hence you feel objectified, as in not really appreciated as an individual.
What could you expect? Normality? No excuse for harassing someone. Still you can't think anyone like that is going to be well-adjusted instead of a needy mess. Best we can do is try to control that.
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