Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

[CenotaphGirl]

I mean, I'm not starting fights over here, but I figured a shaved head and a muscular frame would do some of the heavy lifting for me. I work in mechanics, which I thought would put me over as a masculine profession.

Most of my male friends aren't particularly 'edgy', but have always done ok.

Yeah all men just aren't equal in that way, I've had guys say some rude messed up stuff to me, and still somehow charmed me, 99% sure, any other guy would have just got a slap lol it's all about you, what works for some just cant work for all. I hope you figure it out, no one should worry this much about finding someone, just awful.

 

[M_also_lonely]

Seriously are you guys trolling ? There's no way people have this much trouble, it's unheard of, even my brothers nerdy mates have more luck than this.

In any social setting that includes both men and women, the majority of women are attracted to a tiny minority of men.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

In any social setting that includes both men and women, the majority of women are attracted to a tiny minority of men.

I mean I'd say im an exception to the rule, but are you guys telling me, you haven't seen "losers" in relationships... ugh just look at my ex biggest one of all time, still pulled me. It's like you all just need to just stop caring about it so much.

 

[TheRealCallie]

I'm very social and confident

There's a fine line between confident and arrogant. Is there a chance you might be on the wrong side of that line? I don't know you, so I have no idea, just a thought.

 

[Unsigned]

I'm 31 years old, and I can 100% testify to that. I'm employed, renting, in shape, I'm very social and confident, yet.... they just don't want to know.

I'm 26 years older than you...and not only have I bever had a girlfriend...I've never been ON A FREE DATE!
You are 100% correct.
For some of us...we always were and always will be invisible to attractive females.

 

[Unsigned]

Seriously are you guys trolling ? Theres no way people have this much trouble, it's unheard of, even my brothers nerdy mates have more luck than this.

I always like your posts Cento...but yes..this happens to some of us. I am living proof.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

I always like your posts Cento...but yes..this happens to some of us. I am living proof.

but whyyy, are you guys mean and just dont know it? Or too nice? Or religious? Or... have high pitched voices? These are like the only things I can think of.

 

[Unsigned]

Maybe you have no... edge... you're just too smooth, you know? need a little roughness about ya, that gets us ladies interested, according to data anyway.

Awful.
Why should I have to be anything more than a successful, educated, well mannered, well groomed gentleman?
I am sorry. This is unacceptable
That says much more ab out today's western females than it does about guys like me.

 

[user 164061]

but whyyy, are you guys mean and just dont know it? Or too nice? Or religious? Or... have high pitched voices? These are like the only things I can think of.

Sh*t, you found out the reason i can't get women!! My voice sounds like i am on permanent helium!

 

[TheRealCallie]

Awful.
Why should I have to be anything more than a successful, educated, well mannered, well groomed gentleman?
I am sorry. This is unacceptable
That says much more ab out today's western females than it does about guys like me.

What type of girl do you want? Would you take ANY girl or are you wanting something specific?

 

[Unsigned]

but whyyy, are you guys mean and just dont know it? Or too nice? Or religious? Or... have high pitched voices? These are like the only things I can think of.

I don't look like George Clooney, or Brad Pitt, or Channing Tatum (or Daniel Craig for you Brits).
I was not born with a square jaw & chiseled facial features.
I'm, 6'1", always have exercised & been in decent shape.
And realistically, to have a GF, I would have had to target 5/10s and below due to my genetic facial features.
Thank God for escort services...

 

[ardour]

Everyone gets RXACTLY what they want when they want it, the way they want it. That's made up. Human experience is way different.

Not everyone...

You might want to read Michel Houellebecq, if you tolerate the ugly subject matter. This has been going on for decades. Sexual liberation lead to the pauperization of a large % of people who might have found partners 50 years ago. ( A larger % of awkward men and a smaller number of very unattractive or older women.)

 

[MysteriousTelephone]

I also think technology has kind of fudged our minds; we get told a LOT of things, get the soul crushing (tried recently lol) experience of dating apps and their ways designed to MAKE you pay. It was a lot easier in the 90's mid 2000's because we were all stupider and more social.I'd get accosted by a girl on the bus on occasion and we'd just chat, or in a cafe ir what not. Now everyone has their noses on their phones. Everyone gets RXACTLY what they want when they want it, the way they want it. That's made up. Human experience is way different.
Always said the kids nowadays have it harder than the Boomers did. No offense to Boomers.

See, this puts all my peers and myself in exactly the same boat, yet they’re not struggling in the same way. They put themselves on dating apps, and they get matches. I’m not saying they’re out every weekend with a different woman, but they’ve done ok, and all led to long term relationships. I put myself on dating apps and I get zero matches. I put myself out there, I join groups, I go out socially a lot, I try to get my friends to set me up.

 

[Unsigned]

What type of girl do you want? Would you take ANY girl or are you wanting something specific?

18-29
Petite body
Very pretty face
Basically UCLA cheerleader types.
Yes, I know, I am a very picky b*stard.
And yes, I know, my age expectations are crazy given my 57 years.
But I did not have those types of girls for free when I was their age.
I suppose if I did, I would be a totally different person.
But I didn't.
And seeing escorts for nearly 38 years skewed my expectations. Big time.
I dunno...I'm f-d up.
At least I know it...

 

[MysteriousTelephone]

Yeah all men just aren't equal in that way, I've had guys say some rude messed up stuff to me, and still somehow charmed me, 99% sure, any other guy would have just got a slap lol it's all about you, what works for some just cant work for all. I hope you figure it out, no one should worry this much about finding someone, just awful.

I’m 100% the guy that gets a slap!

 

[CenotaphGirl]

Sh*t, you found out the reason i can't get women!! My voice sounds like i am on permanent helium!

Shut up lool I know what you sound like so now I know you blokes are trolling me lmaoo

Awful.
Why should I have to be anything more than a successful, educated, well mannered, well groomed gentleman?
I am sorry. This is unacceptable
That says much more ab out today's western females than it does about guys like me.

I dont think women can help what they are attracted to anymore than anyone else can, they cant be shamed into it, it's just a natural thing. My dad tried to force me to only want to be with what he said... simply didnt work.

I don't look like George Clooney, or Brad Pitt, or Channing Tatum (or Daniel Craig for you Brits).
I was not born with a square jaw & chiseled facial features.
I'm, 6'1", always have exercised & been in decent shape.
And realistically, to have a GF, I would have had to target 5/10s and below due to my genetic facial features.
Thank God for escort services...

awh thats sad

 

[M_also_lonely]

I mean I'd say im an exception to the rule, but are you guys telling me, you haven't seen "losers" in relationships... ugh just look at my ex biggest one of all time, still pulled me. It's like you all just need to just stop caring about it so much.

The situation with guys who get rejected often and guys who have always been rejected is very very different. Very different. To put it simply:

Intensity: Never having any acceptance > Frequent rejections > Rejection > Breakup

We are not talking about guys who get success sometimes and lose sometimes. We are talking about guys, who have never gotten any positive sign from a woman. I don't belong to that category anymore. But I have been that way for about 90% of my life. (you can refer to my old posts, to see how the life of such a person is)
Sure, your ex ''pulled you' because within his belief system, there lies some sort of evidence that he has a chance with someone in the entire world. But for many, such an evidence (in the form of past experience), does not exist. At some point, you chose him, you could have chosen someone else from that circle. But there are guys who came to your life, whom you would never give a chance. We're talking about that guys. For those guys, the situation wouldn't change in a different circle.
When women try to enter discussing about this issue, they claim that although they rejected someone, he has a fair chance in a different circle. This is absolutely untrue. An absolute fallacy.
You were accepted at-least for once by someone.
You haven't seen it happen to you. You'll never know.

 

[Unsigned]

Shut up lool I know what you sound like so now I know you blokes are trolling me lmaoo


I dont think women can help what they are attracted to anymore than anyone else can, they cant be shamed into it, it's just a natural thing. My dad tried to force me to only want to be with what he said... simply didnt work.

awh thats sad

I totally agree on the attraction issue.
Yes, females can no more alter to whom they are attracted than I can.
I can never be sexually attracted to an age appropriate, or overweight, or facially unattractive female anymore than the hot ones can be attracted to me.

So a long time ago I made a choice to pay for what I am attracted to. Is it optimal? Absolutely not.
But many guys like me DO wife up a 4 or 5/10, and not only make themselves miserable, but make the poor girl miserable too.
At least I keep my misery to myself, self medicate with booze as needed, and see escorts as I see fit.
Not optimal, but not hurting anyone.
I really don't know any other way.

 

[Unsigned]

Sorry for my rant.
I 'm drunk.
And yeah, I saw a pretty decent Asian escort earlier tonight.
Proof that it's not enough.
But still, better than nothing...

 

[TheRealCallie]

18-29
Petite body
Very pretty face
Basically UCLA cheerleader types.
Yes, I know, I am a very picky b*stard.
And yes, I know, my age expectations are crazy given my 57 years.
But I did not have those types of girls for free when I was their age.
I suppose if I did, I would be a totally different person.
But I didn't.
And seeing escorts for nearly 38 years skewed my expectations. Big time.
I dunno...I'm f-d up.
At least I know it...

So essentially what you are saying is that you want a young, hot chick? A "trophy wife" so to speak...

Have you considered dating women outside that list? I'm not saying it would be impossible to find what you want. But, what you want and what you need are two completely different things.