Merry Xmas from my girlfriend

[putter65]

I never thought I would meet anybody. I thought women didn't like me. I had given up. And then this woman comes along. I get set up (first time ever) and she is slim, pretty and intelligent. It was like winning the lottery.

I wanted to believe in her, wanted her to be a nice person.

Seems such a shame how she turned out.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Been used, mamopiated, coned,blackmaled, slandered, lied too, cheat, stoled, stalkef...ect..etc
By women.
been put into desperate situations.

Im emotionally driven.
Im well awear of what the so call healhty relationship should be or oight to be.

Im in knee deep with my fiance.

Dont make decisions on your emotions.
I get that...i make hard decisions all
The time in business that requires
Me to emotional detached

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All the honeysuckle and knowledge gosr
Out the window when it comes
To my fiancee.....

I can admit this.

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Wheater ive been with 100s of
Women or none. Has no baring
On this matter.

Im emotionally more driven
Than mosf men.
My brain is wired that way.

I dont beat up on myself nor
I blame my fiancee.

I know blaming all only make it worst.
Whatever process we must go through.

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Freewill dosnt mean i will make good decisions all the time.
I do make the best decision at that moment..even if its
Emotionally driven.

 

[putter65]

Well I left it a few days and she has just sent me a text asking me if I'm okay.

I'm learning.

 

[Lonely in BC]

This "lady" is sure a master of manipulation. I hate it when people play games like the one she's pulling on you putter.

 

[jjam]

Well I left it a few days and she has just sent me a text asking me if I'm okay.

I'm learning.

What are you learning?

 

[putter65]

Well I left it a few days and she has just sent me a text asking me if I'm okay.

I'm learning.

What are you learning?

what works.

Killing this thread now, it's boring.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

LoL putter.....

Are nice women, healthy relationships boring
To you?
Mellowdramma?

I have a copy of an e book call
WHY MEN LOVE BITCHES
its written by a woman for women.lol

 

[putter65]

Last week she only replied to my texts.

This week I haven't sent any and she has sent some herself. Last weeks were cold, this week she is asking me how I'm doing. It's like an iceberg slowly melting. I'm not going to run into her arms the second she asks me to. She will have to make an effort.

But why I am I bothered with her when there is millions of women out there for me ? (Everbody is asking) - it's been like that for the last 25 years and no woman has shown an interest. Nobody is now. I haven't got a bunch of women sending me texts asking me how I am.

I'm not talking relationship here, just friends. I don't trust her, I don't think I ever will again. I've spent most of my life sat at home, isn't it better to have a friend, some company, some female company just to have a chat and a coffee with. There are some women I know, single women and they wouldn't be seen dead having a coffee with me. I know this. People at work have tried to match me with them and their reaction was 'god no' - and that was to a walk around a fair and a chat. I can't be picky, women don't want to spend time with me (especially alone)

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Cat and mouse...
Its all part of dating and building a relationship.

You wont be the only
Guy hitting on her when
Shes dating wheather its
in real life or on line dating site.
As I stated juggling. People
Date multiple people rather then
one at a time. Its part of dating.

Slandering her is ignorant to
This simple fact...

If several women respond to
You at the sometime, you
Wouldnt have a problem.
You would try to juggle those
women just the same.
You would also make mistakes
As you learn to juggle.

This woman is also learning
How to date becuase she's
been in long term relationship.

Guys are studs. Women are whores.
IS A messed UP DOUBLE STANDARD BELEFS
AND IDEA.

 

[putter65]

Yes your right (that she was always seeing other men) and I took our relationship too seriously. I should have let her get on with fake xmas holiday. It wasn't like I was in love with her or anything. And we didn't sleep together. I'm learning about dating in my 40's. How crazy is that ?

I was always in two minds with her anyway. Questioning whether I wanted to see her. I'm like that now. I do like texts though, just makes me happy someone is thinking about me.

 

[Anten]

Yes your right (that she was always seeing other men) and I took our relationship too seriously. I should have let her get on with fake xmas holiday. It wasn't like I was in love with her or anything. And we didn't sleep together. I'm learning about dating in my 40's. How crazy is that ?

I know Crow is saying this is all part of the dating game but at best this chick is really immature if she is playing this game at her age. If a chick likes you she won't lie to you and say she went on holiday when she is out with another guy. She can also be making up for lost time because of her marriage ending and this is a really volatile point in her life. I had a friend who had gotten divorced and once that happen he just became a man whore.

I was always in two minds with her anyway. Questioning whether I wanted to see her. I'm like that now. I do like texts though, just makes me happy someone is thinking about me.

She just seems to want attention and when you don't give it she plays nice with you. If you want to continue with her "cat and mouse" the best luck to you.

 

[putter65]

Yes your right (that she was always seeing other men) and I took our relationship too seriously. I should have let her get on with fake xmas holiday. It wasn't like I was in love with her or anything. And we didn't sleep together. I'm learning about dating in my 40's. How crazy is that ?

I know Crow is saying this is all part of the dating game but at best this chick is really immature if she is playing this game at her age. If a chick likes you she won't lie to you and say she went on holiday when she is out with another guy. She can also be making up for lost time because of her marriage ending and this is a really volatile point in her life. I had a friend who had gotten divorced and once that happen he just became a man whore.

I was always in two minds with her anyway. Questioning whether I wanted to see her. I'm like that now. I do like texts though, just makes me happy someone is thinking about me.

She just seems to want attention and when you don't give it she plays nice with you. If you want to continue with her "cat and mouse" the best luck to you.

Her next door neighbour said she has changed since her husband walked out on her. She, herself says her life is a mess.

At the moment, swapping a few texts isn't doing me any harm. I have no intention of seeing her or asking her out.

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I have had no other messages on my mobile this week by the way. Apart from this woman. No messages on facebook either. A few have made comments about my comments on FB. Some other woman 'liked' my status. But that's it. I'm off work this week and I generally spend the time by myself or with my Dad. Nobody much bothers with me. Even though I send messages on facebook quite often, just asking people how they are.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

If all you wanted was to hang out and have off...
Then whats the problem?
Whatever the hell refernce or opinions her neighbours
Have of her is just that...a grain of salt.
Its not kike this woman needs her permission to live.
Your not the victim. Even tbough you wish to play

 

[putter65]

If all you wanted was to hang out and have off...
Then whats the problem?
Whatever the hell refernce or opinions her neighbours
Have of her is just that...a grain of salt.
Its not kike this woman needs her permission to live.
Your not the victim. Even tbough you wish to play

The next door neighbour introduced us. She came into my workplace (a shop) and started talking to me about her. She got us together. And then she always took an interest. She was always asking me how it was going.

No I wanted her to be a proper girlfriend. But she was so unpredictable I was always questioning whether she was worth it.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Go back to the orginal thread about her.
Right out of the gate you want miss right...
Its what most people do when they first
Start dating...Then their bubble gets
Busted.

But to slander this woman or get judgemental about it is retarded.

Shes free to take test drives like anyone
Else...

Your erro is thinking she made a commitment

Shes free to test drive as many guys
As she chooses.
If you domt like it...its yoir problem.

Hence youre having problems with
All of this..
However, it donst make her less of a person.
Your opinions of her is but a grain of
Salt.

 

[putter65]

Go back to the orginal thread about her.
Right out of the gate you want miss right...
Its what most people do when they first
Start dating...Then their bubble gets
Busted.

But to slander this woman or get judgemental about it is retarded.

Shes free to take test drives like anyone
Else...

Your erro is thinking she made a commitment

Shes free to test drive as many guys
As she chooses.
If you domt like it...its yoir problem.

Hence youre having problems with
All of this..
However, it donst make her less of a person.
Your opinions of her is but a grain of
Salt.

I'm not sure. Everybody who I have talked to about it agreed with me. It was an awfull thing to do. It wasn't seeing other men, it was lying to me. And a big lie too. The fake texts from another country was taking the piss. But I admit I didn't act in the right way. I should have kept it to myself and let her get on with it.

But you can't turn back the clock. What is done is done. I'm sad it happened the way it did. We can't all act in the correct way. We all make mistakes, I did, she did. If she hadn't have sent the fake texts she could have got away with it. (She could have told me she changed her mind about the holiday)

 

[Anten]

She has a right to see other guys and I won't fault her for that. But like putter65 said she just flat out lied and it was a huge lie. If she just didn't want to be with putter65 then she should of been up front about it. That was highly disrespectful on her part and there is no way you can hold anyone but her at fault for that. Even if she thought putter65 was getting way to clingy and didn't want to hurt his feelings that isn't an excuse.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

I already said, shes in the process of
Learing how to date. Shes certainly
Not a pro at it....

If its such a problem that she lied to
You...then stay the hel away from her.
If your so much more mature than her.

But you contonue to have contact with
Her and expecting her to be whatever
The hell you wamt her to be..if she
falls short of that, then shes a stupid lying ***** to you. Then you'll
Demand explanations of why she's
Such a fresia up for not being perfect
To your demans...
While your tactics may be passive.
YOUR MOTIVES REMAINS THE SAME.

Then youll play the poor me, I'm
so lonily card and no women likes
Me for pity.

 

[putter65]

I already said, shes in the process of
Learing how to date. Shes certainly
Not a pro at it....

If its such a problem that she lied to
You...then stay the hel away from her.
If your so much more mature than her.

But you contonue to have contact with
Her and expecting her to be whatever
The hell you wamt her to be..if she
falls short of that, then shes a stupid lying ***** to you. Then you'll
Demand explanations of why she's
Such a fresia up for not being perfect
To your demans...
While your tactics may be passive.
YOUR MOTIVES REMAINS THE SAME.

Then youll play the poor me, I'm
so lonily card and no women likes
Me for pity.

The lying is history. I won't mention it again to her. And I don't exactly expect her to change. Maybe I am attracted to women who are fresia ups ?

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She has a right to see other guys and I won't fault her for that. But like putter65 said she just flat out lied and it was a huge lie. If she just didn't want to be with putter65 then she should of been up front about it. That was highly disrespectful on her part and there is no way you can hold anyone but her at fault for that. Even if she thought putter65 was getting way to clingy and didn't want to hurt his feelings that isn't an excuse.

Yes I agree with that.

From my point of view, I have done all that I can to get her back. I do forgive people. My text messages were clear and precise. I have stooped to a level I am not proud of, said things that are embarrassing. That didn't seem to work. Now I am playing it cool, not sending texts or paying her much attention.

Her words last time I saw her 'it was upto me' that we become a couple again. If she had said 'fresia off' or 'it's never going to happen' - then I wouldn't be doing all this.

Beggers can't be choosers is a saying that springs to mind. She did have alot of faults but she was also nice in her own way.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Excatly...
It was up to you.
You Chose to continue to
Have contact with her.

Shes hamburger...
And youre complaining why
Shes not a fuckin steak.

She dose what she dose because
Shes hambutger..

You do what you do cause you're
A chesse puff.