TheRealCallie
Princess Pink Love
I don't think anyone is saying that women have it easier, just that men don't have it harder....
TheRealCallie said:I don't think anyone is saying that women have it easier, just that men don't have it harder....
ManitobaBrit70 said:In my opinion the only way online dating is successful is if you have to pay for it! the free ones like POF are mostly full of idiots (Men and Women) who are either after ***, hooking up for money or millions of other sexual fantasies that may be involved! The minority on there are genuine! And the genuine ones slip through the net because the others ruin it for them!
I talked to one guy who said he had been on there for months and not had one reply! And he's not in any way unattractive, another guy said that all the messages he was getting from women were for one night stands..... So women and men are as bad as each other!
Whereas if you have to pay a subscription then the customers are more genuine! Because who wants to pay for trying to get a one night stand right!
And Richard you are in the minority......In my entire life I have NEVER had a guy talk to me on a bus, walk me out of the subway, ask me randomly for coffee and I'm a decent looking girl with a sociable personality. That's because society tells us to avoid contact with strangers. I came from a city where there was at least one murder and multiple rapes every single day so you definitely don't talk to the random guy sitting next to you no matter how nice he may be.....That's sad but very true!
So there is no winning, online dating sucks, meeting strangers is rare, going for a blind date with your best friends friend sucks.......Its a cruel world!
Tealeaf said:Gave it a try last night and already decided I'd rather stay single. I don't feel it's worth it when many of the ones who don't immediately get rude are incompatible, anyways.
I'm looking for events for hobby musicians so maybe I'll meet someone there. At least we'll have one thing in common, and they'll have to be interested enough in connection to stop scouring the Internet for women 20 years younger to send weird messages to and go meet people.
Richard_39 said:ManitobaBrit70 said:In my opinion the only way online dating is successful is if you have to pay for it! the free ones like POF are mostly full of idiots (Men and Women) who are either after ***, hooking up for money or millions of other sexual fantasies that may be involved! The minority on there are genuine! And the genuine ones slip through the net because the others ruin it for them!
I talked to one guy who said he had been on there for months and not had one reply! And he's not in any way unattractive, another guy said that all the messages he was getting from women were for one night stands..... So women and men are as bad as each other!
Whereas if you have to pay a subscription then the customers are more genuine! Because who wants to pay for trying to get a one night stand right!
And Richard you are in the minority......In my entire life I have NEVER had a guy talk to me on a bus, walk me out of the subway, ask me randomly for coffee and I'm a decent looking girl with a sociable personality. That's because society tells us to avoid contact with strangers. I came from a city where there was at least one murder and multiple rapes every single day so you definitely don't talk to the random guy sitting next to you no matter how nice he may be.....That's sad but very true!
So there is no winning, online dating sucks, meeting strangers is rare, going for a blind date with your best friends friend sucks.......Its a cruel world!
I was on POF...care to look me in the eye and call me an *****?!? ;-) lol
I'm not the minority. Happens every day in my city, although less and less. I think geographical locations and countries social context play a role in how society behaves.
But it doesn't change the fact that actual human contact is much different than a computer based one. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE has a different personality. You might write about it for 10 pages, it does NOTHING to someone else to explain exactly how you are. And for many, if not all of us in interpersonal relationships, that sparks makes the difference. Instead of accumulating failiures online that might be eternal, is it not better to accumulate failiures offline until that odd moment when your personality does in fact spark with someone else?
Hell, it's exactly the reason people tell bold faced lies on websites, as much MEN AS WOMEN; they're frustrated with it. It works one in a million times, when two actual people decide both to be honest with each other and open. That NEVER happens, even offline. So what are the odds online? Of course, dating websites will only publish those lightning in a bottle success stories and not tell you they only dated 6 months, to a year, if even that. That's if those testimonials are in any way legit, which they are probably not anyway, but hey, they get 20 gullible fools out of 2 BILLION to believe it and pay, so much the better for them right? Considering the next to nothing costs for maintaining a website, it's straight in their pockets!
A paying website is not a guarantee of success; it's a guarantee you'll only meet people with means. Are the rich and shameless the best of society? Don't think so. Nicest man I ever met was out of jail for murder. Not to mention the fact that the concept of filling some nowhere schmuck's pockets with money for no reason because something like this should be free abhors me. I'd rather feed starving kids in Malasia than make sure some morons make money in their basements preying on other people's senses of hope or loneliness.
Maybe you shoul move lol. Your city sounds like a drag. My city, someone gets stuck in the snow in his car and we offer to help push. Just for ***** and giggles ;-)
Anyway, all that to say online is a very narrow enterprise. And it creates friction and frustrations far more than getting shot down in real life.
But it's "safer". That's the only difference. This thread shows however it creates more negative than positive. How many of you are with someone you met online, right now? For how long did it last? We're a couple hundred here, is there even 1?
ManitobaBrit70 said:Only here in Manitoba people get their kids stolen and heads cut of with samurai swords....... Its the same everywhere!
Richard_39 said:ManitobaBrit70 said:Only here in Manitoba people get their kids stolen and heads cut of with samurai swords....... Its the same everywhere!
Um, no lol.
Pretty sure that happenned only once. On a bus.
But it could've happenned anywhere, let's not exagerate.
We have about 30 murders a year here in Montreal (as opposed to like, 100 or so in the US). That doesn't really correlate with dating success, however.
You know, there's a parallel that exists with your dating profile and real life; if you're hidden...how's the right person going to be able to message you?
In that same sense, if you stay locked away in fear and never talk to anyone because you,re scared of katanas....how's the right person going to talk to you? lol.
Sure. It's scary. Sure, there's lunatics. But what about the others? How you gonna find them if you don't even try? lol.
Talk to people. If no one talks to you on the bus, you talk to them. You going to recoil in fear because he might be carrying a machete? We should go out our doors then lol.
NO, no, fine, I get it, I'm an *****, I get it, no need to rub it in...........
ManitobaBrit70 said:As for being scared around strange people YES a lot of people are, I'm one of them! That's not something that you should RUB IN! When you've been *****, held at gunpoint, had your finger bitten off given a skull fracture and been abused all your life then your feelings for the human race may be a little different to others! Oh and did I miss the terrorist that had a bomb strapped to him on the train! That happened too and he was sat opposite me...........You've got to be careful out there.
Plus maybe my opinions are different because I'm a mental health nurse who has worked with said murderers, rapists and Child molesters.....I've been inside their brains and know how they tick!
That's as much as I will say on this subject
ardour said:"Incomptable". Huh. Well that's what it's like to have options, at least, and the ego validation that goes with it.
Tealeaf said:ardour said:"Incomptable". Huh. Well that's what it's like to have options, at least, and the ego validation that goes with it.
I mean, if you think I should date a guy who feels completely differently about having children, religion, politics, what's important in life, mental health, and various other key topics... sure, judge away. I'm just a mean ol' ***** out to raise my ego by refusing all the "nice guys".
Tealeaf said:ardour said:"Incomptable". Huh. Well that's what it's like to have options, at least, and the ego validation that goes with it.
I mean, if you think I should date a guy who feels completely differently about having children, religion, politics, what's important in life, mental health, and various other key topics... sure, judge away. I'm just a mean ol' ***** out to raise my ego by refusing all the "nice guys".
VanillaCreme said:Tealeaf said:ardour said:"Incomptable". Huh. Well that's what it's like to have options, at least, and the ego validation that goes with it.
I mean, if you think I should date a guy who feels completely differently about having children, religion, politics, what's important in life, mental health, and various other key topics... sure, judge away. I'm just a mean ol' ***** out to raise my ego by refusing all the "nice guys".
The "nice" guys aren't so nice when they are refused. Might as well follow your instinct. There are reasons why people are turned down, and more than a handful of the people who claim to be nice aren't anyway.
Tealeaf said:VanillaCreme said:The "nice" guys aren't so nice when they are refused. Might as well follow your instinct. There are reasons why people are turned down, and more than a handful of the people who claim to be nice aren't anyway.
Not even that, just that if the most that can be said is we both like movies and we're both single, we're probably not going to be happy in a long-term relationship where you have to think about spending years with that specific person or living together.
Bitter guys will be bitter no matter what though. They just want to blame women. I'd get heat all the same if I dated these guys and didn't fall in love with them, or dated these guys and was burned by them despite knowing there would be problems.
Xpendable said:Bitterness never comes before rejection. Remember that. Bitterness never comes first.
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