Adrolak said:Threads like these are why I stopped checking the forums.
SophiaGrace said:Fine, subject matter: the premise is that hookers are ugly. I ask, why would hookers be ugly? Probably illegal drugs makes their appearance deteriorate and all the stress from the high risk of the job, also what economical background do hookers come from usually? Not escorts, hookers. Maybe they are too ugly to have boyfriends (ie romantic partners that wish to stay around). Ugly + drugs = no one cares about your well being. Also probably don't have a strong family support system. Escourt is usually the term for a high end, prettier girl that sells herself, probably more likely she sells herself legally.
These are all speculations without any hard data keep in mind.
flaneur said:There isn't really much room for defense here. Either he's so contemptible a being as to be serious with this thread or he's just stirring up drama. He has already confessed to the latter, which fortunately for him is the lesser of two evils. Now he can admit he made a mistake or he can descend into his usual guilt-card routine of playing the misunderstood "nice guy," thanking people like Lost Drifter for their "advice" and making himself out to be the victim. As there appears to be a tendency here of blindly defending your buddy, the latter outcome seems likely.
I'm sure he's a great guy. That has no bearing on the argument. He has been deliberately provocative and unwittingly confessed it. The only difference between him and other trolls is that he's not aware he's trolling, owing to his egotistical belief that his drama is "reviving" this place. Sci-Fi has previously stated that LK "helps keeps the forums alive." But for the users here who aren't fed up with him and other offensive posters yet, we have lost valuable long-term (or potentially long-term) contributors who are. Rather than try to jolt the place into life temporarily, LK, perhaps you should consider why it has been stagnant in the first place.
Lastly, I keep reading the argument that one doesn't have to read his threads and therefore the reader is to blame. This is simply not true. His thread titles are equally frustrating and can ruin a user's browsing experience. It is not a coincidence that one can immediately infer who the poster of a dental plan thread is prior to reading it. I find the possibility that a newcomer can come here and be turned off by offensive thread titles such as this one (without knowing that "it's just LoneKiller again") more appalling than any of the trivial ******** in it.
Hi kaetic. Sorry we didn't meet on better terms. I don't apologize for making the thread. In all fairness it didn't occur to me the circumstances in which the reason one has to live a life of prostitution to deal with.kaetic said:I don't know you LoneKiller. For all I know you are a really nice person. But I believe that posting this was both a choice and a mistake. Sure you got peoples attention. (I assume since you said the forum was stagnant, that's what you wanted.) But at what cost. This is very hurtful, and you couldn't possibly know the reasons why some one might become a prostitute, or who on here might be one. Human trafficking, drugs, being forced into it by your (parents, boyfriend, loanshark). People (and yes men can be hookers too) tend to do things like this when they don't feel they have any other choice. I looked at this thread, kind of how a person looks at a train wreck. It's horrifying, but I just can't look away. From what I've heard on this thread alone, I know you can pick a better topic than this.
LoneKiller said:flaneur said:There isn't really much room for defense here. Either he's so contemptible a being as to be serious with this thread or he's just stirring up drama. He has already confessed to the latter, which fortunately for him is the lesser of two evils. Now he can admit he made a mistake or he can descend into his usual guilt-card routine of playing the misunderstood "nice guy," thanking people like Lost Drifter for their "advice" and making himself out to be the victim. As there appears to be a tendency here of blindly defending your buddy, the latter outcome seems likely.
I'm sure he's a great guy. That has no bearing on the argument. He has been deliberately provocative and unwittingly confessed it. The only difference between him and other trolls is that he's not aware he's trolling, owing to his egotistical belief that his drama is "reviving" this place. Sci-Fi has previously stated that LK "helps keeps the forums alive." But for the users here who aren't fed up with him and other offensive posters yet, we have lost valuable long-term (or potentially long-term) contributors who are. Rather than try to jolt the place into life temporarily, LK, perhaps you should consider why it has been stagnant in the first place.
Lastly, I keep reading the argument that one doesn't have to read his threads and therefore the reader is to blame. This is simply not true. His thread titles are equally frustrating and can ruin a user's browsing experience. It is not a coincidence that one can immediately infer who the poster of a dental plan thread is prior to reading it. I find the possibility that a newcomer can come here and be turned off by offensive thread titles such as this one (without knowing that "it's just LoneKiller again") more appalling than any of the trivial ******** in it.
Now you listen to me flaneur. I sick and tired of people like you assuming that you know what is inside my head. You don't know me at all. Try taking the time to read the threads I posted that are devoted to helping other members. I never claimed to be the perfect member. Nor did I claim to be a perfect poster either.
Were the hell were you when I was being trolled left, right, and center from Callie and Equinox? Using hookers in a thread was a choice, not a mistake. I am sick and tired of apologizing for my opinions.
I don't answer to you. I refuse to change who I am and what I believe to accommodate people like you. I have the right to speak my mind without people like you and your "Holier Than Thou" attitudes.
You can take that "Guilt Card" remark and shove it up your ass. I do my very best to help others, and I make mistakes and sometimes what I think comes out differently, but it is all designed to help.
All I want to do is help others and help myself. I am a decent person. I am also a person who is suffering. If you think that I am going change who I am and articulate my words to satisfy you, you are out of your ******* mind.
So I do post a lot. I don't dispute that. My heart is in the right place. Who gives a **** how many posts I make if it helps even just 1 member? Since when is a large amount of help taboo in a forum full of those seeking it? Members tell me to post more, members tell me to post less. Just what the hell do you want me to do?
LoneKiller said:Hi kaetic. Sorry we didn't meet on better terms. I don't apologize for making the thread. In all fairness it didn't occur to me the circumstances in which the reason one has to live a life of prostitution to deal with.kaetic said:I don't know you LoneKiller. For all I know you are a really nice person. But I believe that posting this was both a choice and a mistake. Sure you got peoples attention. (I assume since you said the forum was stagnant, that's what you wanted.) But at what cost. This is very hurtful, and you couldn't possibly know the reasons why some one might become a prostitute, or who on here might be one. Human trafficking, drugs, being forced into it by your (parents, boyfriend, loanshark). People (and yes men can be hookers too) tend to do things like this when they don't feel they have any other choice. I looked at this thread, kind of how a person looks at a train wreck. It's horrifying, but I just can't look away. From what I've heard on this thread alone, I know you can pick a better topic than this.
LoneKiller said:********. The "Guilt Card" remark was a crack at my character. You are the one who needs to read some of my posts other than the ones you dislike. Don't tell me to come to my senses like you are some sort of psychologist. You aren't qualified to assess my mental status.
You must think I'm some stupid. In red type I said "I Mean No disrespect". What the hell does the "Guilt Card" remark have to do with the way I worded the thread? If all of your concern was based solely on the way I worded it, then why bring up the guilt card?flaneur said:LoneKiller said:********. The "Guilt Card" remark was a crack at my character. You are the one who needs to read some of my posts other than the ones you dislike. Don't tell me to come to my senses like you are some sort of psychologist. You aren't qualified to assess my mental status.
Yes, I did criticize your character -- and how was that criticizing the quantity of posts you make, which is what you so vehemently defended in a giant wall of text? And considering your refusal to apologize to an offended member, I think I was dead on with my prediction about your character as well.
LoneKiller said:You must think I'm some stupid. In red type I said "I Mean No disrespect". What the hell does the "Guilt Card" remark have to do with the way I worded the thread? If all of your concern was based solely on the way I worded it, then why bring up the guilt card?flaneur said:LoneKiller said:********. The "Guilt Card" remark was a crack at my character. You are the one who needs to read some of my posts other than the ones you dislike. Don't tell me to come to my senses like you are some sort of psychologist. You aren't qualified to assess my mental status.
Yes, I did criticize your character -- and how was that criticizing the quantity of posts you make, which is what you so vehemently defended in a giant wall of text? And considering your refusal to apologize to an offended member, I think I was dead on with my prediction about your character as well.
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