Men with low testosterone

[CenotaphGirl]

Maybe being in a relationship increases your testoterone for the simple fact that you're having sex regularly with someone ?

I think my depression and lack ofsport makes me low testoterone right now

Maybe you’re right, do you think maybe it was the “manly work” of the era? Lack of porn? Im sure porn is a massive factor

 

[TheRealCallie]

6’5 white with blue eyesssss

LOL, well, I would take that too (no, guys about to pounce, height and specific eyes are NOT mandatory with me) but I was totally talking more values of the man, like who he is.

 

[sub5male]

6’5 white with blue eyesssss

How many men are there like that-less than 1% for certain. And women wonder why most men are so incredibly discouraged trying to find a relationship. Of course, when a man states that he is only interested in a top 1% (or even 5% ,10% or 20%) women he is immediately slammed for having unrealistic standards and body shaming while when a women states that she is only into guys over 6 foot it is merely her personal preference.

 

[SquareBin]

Maybe you’re right, do you think maybe it was the “manly work” of the era? Lack of porn? Im sure porn is a massive factor

everything is a factor. everything changed and not always for the best

 

[Unsigned]

Increase your muscle size guys, especially in the big muscles like glutes and quads, and you will increase your testosterone. Testosterone is what you need to break down the visceral fat in your abdomen, which is the last place your fat hangs on to. You look better, feel better, and your appeal increases as a result.

Agree with all of this, but the problem for many older guys like me is that due to joint issues, heavy weightlifting is out of the question.
Have you been doing heavy weightlifting?
Or lighter weights and very high reps?
I feel it in my right knee just doing goblet squats 4x15 with 50 lbs - which is very, very light for squats.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

How many men are there like that-less than 1% for certain. And women wonder why most men are so incredibly discouraged trying to find a relationship. Of course, when a man states that he is only interested in a top 1% (or even 5% ,10% or 20%) women he is immediately slammed for having unrealistic standards and body shaming while when a women states that she is only into guys over 6 foot it is merely her personal preference.

Cant help what I like, if I was single I’d date a guy that doesn't look like that but I wouldn't respect him so better I leave him alone

However I dont think men should be shamed for liking what they like, issue is men typically like things that change over time.

 

[okidoke]

Agree with all of this, but the problem for many older guys like me is that due to joint issues, heavy weightlifting is out of the question.
Have you been doing heavy weightlifting?
Or lighter weights and very high reps?
I feel it in my right knee just doing goblet squats 4x15 with 50 lbs - which is very, very light for squats.

I've been increasing my weights over time. I do 4 sets of around 10-15 reps for most exercises. It's important to "deload' every 4-6 weeks (lowering all your weights or even just leave them alone for a week), so your body can recover a bit. I've had knee issues, elbow issues, shoulder issues, tore a pectoral a couple years ago that knocked my back for about 6 months, but with the right exercises you can strengthen and overcome most joint and muscle pain. Apart from my chronic lower back injury, I'm without any other pain for months and months now. (knocking on wood). I did have a ganglion begin to form on my middle finger at the bottom joint, probably because I stopped using gloves for a while for some reason, but it's fading away again. I don't do regular squats because of my back, but I do the hip-belt ones so no direct spinal pressure is endured. Hungarian split-squats are great. The only time I use light weights now is if I want to just do a bit of a warm up. I also use bands at times for certain exercises.

 

[Unsigned]

Cant help what I like

None of us can. I certainly can't, anyways.

issue is men typically like things that change over time.

I'm not sure what you mean here? Please explain.
I've always liked the same thing -- petite college cheerleader types. I don't think it will ever change.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

None of us can. I certainly can't, anyways.


I'm not sure what you mean here? Please explain.
I've always liked the same thing -- petite college cheerleader types. I don't think it will ever change.

I deffo cant, its stressful pretending to like something I dont, many guys dont like me for various reasons I dont cry about it, not sure why men with a healthy testosterone level would cry about women not liking them…

Hmm well its not that your preferences will change but they are often linked to youth, how long can a woman look like a cheerleader? Lol they have short careers for a reason. My mum can still hang with some of my friends in terms of looks as shes still petite, blonde and in shape but its not common for example and wont last forever sadly. Soon she wont be able to hide her age, as with me 20 something years from now

 

[TheRealCallie]

How many men are there like that-less than 1% for certain. And women wonder why most men are so incredibly discouraged trying to find a relationship.

Yes and Ceno is far FAR less than 1% of the population. She's ONE person.
Also....
@CenotaphGirl is your fiance 6'5 with blue eyes? (I'm kind of screwed with my point if you say yes.....lol)

 

[Unsigned]

Hmm well its not that your preferences will change but they are often linked to youth, how long can a woman look like a cheerleader?

Oh OK now I understand your meaning.
Yeah my thoughts on preferences are 100% based on a "type", not an individual female who may fit that type at one time, then eventually (and rather quickly, relatively speaking) no longer be that type.

Maybe being in a relationship increases your testoterone for the simple fact that you're having sex regularly with someone ?

I've actually read the opposite, but honestly I do not know if it is true.
It said that chasing women for hookups (and succeeding a good percentage of the time) is the highest boost for testosterone, whereas beng in an LTR seems to lower it somewhat. I totally agree on depression being a T-killer, though. In fact, stress and depression are simply a Killer of all things, not just T.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

Yes and Ceno is far FAR less than 1% of the population. She's ONE person.
Also....
@CenotaphGirl is your fiance 6'5 with blue eyes? (I'm kind of screwed with my point if you say yes.....lol)

Yeps my opinions are mine only, I wish other women didnt like 6’5 guys to cut down the competition a little and he is actually but in all honesty… he’s way older than me not that I mind but I say that to highlight… I was unable to attract a man like that in their prime whilst im in mine, so I just got a classic.

 

[sub5male]

Yeps my opinions are mine only, I wish other women didnt like 6’5 guys to cut down the competition a little and he is actually but in all honesty… he’s way older than me not that I mind but I say that to highlight… I was unable to attract a man like that in their prime whilst im in mine, so I just got a classic.

That's the issue though-almost all women are looking for the same very narrow category of men so the competition for them is tremendous-and this does not even take into account the fact that these top men have no reason to settle down with a single women when they are in such demand that they can have a different very attractive women ever week.

Meanwhile women consider the men who do not meet their extremely steep standards to be beneath them and unworthy of their affection. The recent study which showed that 63% of men are single while only 36% of women are single seems to corroborate this phenomena as they would rather share a top man than to settle for a "lesser" man who is not in the top 10%.

 

[sub5male]

Cant help what I like, if I was single I’d date a guy that doesn't look like that but I wouldn't respect him so better I leave him alone

However I dont think men should be shamed for liking what they like, issue is men typically like things that change over time.

Men cannot help what we like either though yet as I said we are shamed when we have even reasonable standards-especially standards which relate to a womens weight. Even if a guy is in excellent physical shape he is expected to be happy with an obese women because "all bodies are beautiful"-unless you are a short man in which case it is fine to ridicule & exclude him from consideration based only on his lack of height. The double standard when it comes to things like this is insane.

 

[TheRealCallie]

hat's the issue though-almost all women are looking for the same very narrow category of men so the competition for them is tremendous-and this does not even take into account the fact that these top men have no reason to settle down with a single women when they are in such demand that they can have a different very attractive women ever week.

Um, sorry, but this sentence is EXTREMELY screwed up. Why? Well, because you are blasting women for having preferences (your statement at the beginning is NOT true, btw) yet at the end you are saying men are taking all the VERY ATTRACTIVE women.....funny how it's wrong for women, but not for men....

Meanwhile women consider the men who do not meet their extremely steep standards to be beneath them and unworthy of their affection.

Yes and men don't think the exact same thing?

The recent study which showed that 63% of men are single while only 36% of women are single seems to corroborate this phenomena as they would rather share a top man than to settle for a "lesser" man who is not in the top 10%.

Men are more likely to cheat than women are, so how do you know one man doesn't have multiple women?

 

[TheRealCallie]

Men cannot help what we like either though yet as I said we are shamed when we have even reasonable standards-especially standards which relate to a womens weight. Even if a guy is in excellent physical shape he is expected to be happy with an obese women because "all bodies are beautiful"-unless you are a short man in which case it is fine to ridicule & exclude him from consideration based only on his lack of height. The double standard when it comes to things like this is insane.

There are double standards both ways and there always have been. SOME women are superficial as hell. SOME men are superficial as hell. No offense, but considering how much you are commenting about the top 10% of women, what category do you fall into?

 

[CenotaphGirl]

Men cannot help what we like either though yet as I said we are shamed when we have even reasonable standards-especially standards which relate to a womens weight. Even if a guy is in excellent physical shape he is expected to be happy with an obese women because "all bodies are beautiful"-unless you are a short man in which case it is fine to ridicule & exclude him from consideration based only on his lack of height. The double standard when it comes to things like this is insane.

This is the thing I dont think men should be shamed but I dont think women should be either, seems to sound like if men are shamed women should be too is the argument here rather than no one should be shamed which makes more sense.

Men who are short think they are better than people too, what are the statistics for women wanting to date that are in wheel chairs? I’ll give you a hint, if you looked them up you would see men prefer to be alone than give them a chance too

 

[Unsigned]

... o how do you know one man doesn't have multiple women?

I think that is exactly what that study/survey proved.
That men in the top 10-20% of desirability have multiple girlfriends.
Thus the 63% females in relationships vs only 36% of males.

 

[Unsigned]

This is the thing I dont think men should be shamed but I dont think women should be either

No one should be "shamed" as to who they find attractive, but I have to say, sub5male raises an excellent point about males being "attacked" for not being willing to date overweight women. Even males in good shape. I remember seeing a Dr. Oz youtube clip where he kept saying that "all women are beautiful" and he would not use weight as a factor in making that determination. And he attacked his male guest on the show for doing so. You would think as a heart surgeon he would have at least discussed the medical dangers of obesity...but no...

 

[sub5male]

There are double standards both ways and there always have been. SOME women are superficial as hell. SOME men are superficial as hell. No offense, but considering how much you are commenting about the top 10% of women, what category do you fall into?

RC-I am going to choose to not respond to your posts as you appear not to be an honest interlocutor and seem to be more interested in squabbling than in productive conversation.