Morality of Cheating

[nerdygirl]

*cough* I did not go back to read the past few pages, but I'd like to state that I do not appreciate sadists being lumped in with drug addicts and criminals. I certainly wouldn't group people with Asperger's in with stalkers and slumlords. I also fail to understand what would make somebody think all sadists are happy campers.

 

[TheSolitaryMan]

*cough* I did not go back to read the past few pages, but I'd like to state that I do not appreciate sadists being lumped in with drug addicts and criminals. I certainly wouldn't group people with Asperger's in with stalkers and slumlords. I also fail to understand what would make somebody think all sadists are happy campers.

Looks like my hypothesising is getting me in trouble again

I didn't mean it as a direct association (these people are equally bad/the same/whatever), more as an example of where hedonistic behaviour would lead if there were no moral restraints on society.

 

[SophiaGrace]

I don't like sadists either. They scare me and make me want to find the nearest hiding spot.

 

[nerdygirl]

I didn't mean it as a direct association (these people are equally bad/the same/whatever), more as an example of where hedonistic behaviour would lead if there were no moral restraints on society.

Most people are at least a little hedonistic. You might as well have listed children, art collectors, and jazz musicians. They are equally bad/ the same/ whatever as sadists.

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Sophia Grace O'All (Like your new name?)! You do TOO like sadists. Or at least you like ONE. Otherwise, why the heck do you text me at 6am?

 

[TheSolitaryMan]

I didn't mean it as a direct association (these people are equally bad/the same/whatever), more as an example of where hedonistic behaviour would lead if there were no moral restraints on society.

Most people are at least a little hedonistic. You might as well have listed children, art collectors, and jazz musicians. They are equally bad/ the same/ whatever as sadists.

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Sophia Grace O'All (Like your new name?)! You do TOO like sadists. Or at least you like ONE. Otherwise, why the heck do you text me at 6am?

Okay, cross off "sadists" then. It seems that issue is more complicated than my initial assessment

I agree, most people are a little hedonistic. However, most people also have moral values. The original statement by Frozen was essentially 100% hedonistic without the morals, which then led to what I put and so on.

Can we all just agree and have cake?

*Gives cake*

(Also, cheating is bad.)

 

[nerdygirl]

Okay, cross off "sadists" then. It seems that issue is more complicated than my initial assessment

I agree, most people are a little hedonistic. However, most people also have moral values. The original statement by Frozen was essentially 100% hedonistic without the morals, which then led to what I put and so on.

Can we all just agree and have cake?

*Gives cake*
(Also, cheating is bad.)

*peers at* What kinda cake? It ought to be something incredibly rich, fattening, and delicious. For the hedonists.

 

[Peter Lorre]

Why would it have to be incredibly rich and fattening for hedonists? Epicurus would not agree.

Also, why are sadists 'equally bad' as jazz musicians? I can't say I agree

There are many forms of hedonism really, most of them do indeed focus on the self but are not egoistic per se. They don't all advocate hurting other people to maximise your own pleasure.

 

[Equinox]

Let me say this..... drug addicts, dictators, sadists, criminals. They are all much happier than the majority of people on this forum.

First, I don't believe that to be true. I know several drug addicts, and they're all miserable about their lives. I've also worked at a rehab clinic, and seen a lot of bad stuff go down. It was all fun and games to begin with, but once that addiction settles in and you lose control of your life, the party days are over. Several of them has tried to kill themselves at least once. As for dictators and sadists, I wouldn't know, as I don't know any personally. I suppose you do? Criminals, well ... they come in all shapes and sizes. I guess some are happier than most people, some are not.

But, just for the sake of arguments, let's say you're right; addicts, criminals, sadists and dictators are happier then most people on this forum. What does that mean? How is that relevant to anything? This is a forum for people with issues and heavy struggles in their lives - just about anyone would be happier than us.

Well like I said. I would rather, live a short happy life. Over living a long miserable, or even content life. I respect peoples ability to decide what is right and wrong. I have enough respect for them to admit they are a free thinking individual person. Unlike... well you, who forces feelings and decisions on them based upon titles. You say "Not single" means X, Y and Z. You make assumptions based upon what you want to believe the world is like. You see a boyfriend, not a man. I am at least willing to see people.

I'm confused. Why are you dragging in life span? How does how long a person lives have anything to do with the topic?

Besides, you talk about respecting others, and in the next sentence you accuse me of "forcing" feelings and decisions on others? Dude, you ASKED what people thought about this issue, and people answered. Yes, I say "not single means X, Y and Z", because that's my opinion. Take it or leave it; I'm not trying to force you into feeling anything. Next, you make assumptions about me making assumptions (oh the irony!), and indicate that I don't see people. "You see a boyfriend, not a man"? Oh really? Interesting. Tell me more about my thoughts, feelings and perceptions, since you're the expert on me. That's pretty arrogant, and again, not at all related to this topic. For someone who claims to respect others and their "ability to decide what is right and wrong", you sure do make a lot of unreasonable accusations and assumptions when someone utter their opinion after you asked for it.

Here's my "universal truth" for you: People who deliberately tries to break up marriages/relationships and enjoy doing this, are dicks. The only people who disagrees with this, are the dicks (and even some of them will admit that "yes, okay, that makes me a ****, I can live with that"). If you want to be a ****, be a ****, but then you must accept that a lot of people won't like you, and most people will disagree with you. If you don't want to hear what people think on this matter, then don't ask.

 

[SophiaGrace]

Edit: I like sadists, as long as they aren't sadistic towards me. That would make me come out of my closet, where I like to hide.

 

[nerdygirl]

Edit: I like sadists, as long as they aren't sadistic towards me. That would make me come out of my closet, where I like to hide.

Wait... does that mean you came out of the closet to be with me?

 

[SophiaGrace]

Edit: I like sadists, as long as they aren't sadistic towards me. That would make me come out of my closet, where I like to hide.

Wait... does that mean you came out of the closet to be with me?

Yes it does.

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The closet was smelly and dark.

 

[Nitramici]

The only people who disagrees with this, are the dicks (and even some of them will admit that "yes, okay, that makes me a ****, I can live with that"). If you want to be a ****, be a ****, but then you must accept that a lot of people won't like you, and most people will disagree with you. If you don't want to hear what people think on this matter, then don't ask.

Admitting to be a **** is fine as long as it helps you get the last word in a thread, didn't you hear? Such is the way of internet debates! I'm sadly speaking from experience here, I'd sooner call myself a potential mass murderer than lose a forum debate. It truly is serious business, the internets.

I'm not sure if I'm joking or if I'm serious, I'll get back to you on this. But it doesn't matter because this topic is now about sadists (and sophia x nerdy )

 

[nerdygirl]

Yes it does.

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The closet was smelly and dark.

Like... sweaty belly button under a shirt- smelly and dark? Or old lady's basement smelly and dark?

 

[IgnoredOne]

Sadism is awesome.

 

[SophiaGrace]

Sadism is awesome.

You can't be a true gentleman if you are a sadist.

 

[IgnoredOne]

You can't be a true gentleman if you are a sadist.

What is expressed versus what is felt may be distinct from each other.

 

[floffyschneeman]

Sadism is awesome.

You are probably a masochist

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and oh, I win the debate, since I'm the last poster

 

[AFrozenSoul]

@Equinox: Well no one is happy 100% of the time. The only ones who are depressed are the ones who admit they need help of some kind. There are plenty of people out there who are perfectly happy being all the listed things. After all, I see plenty of people driving around with their bumper sticker that says "Rehab is for quitters"

Actually hun I am interpreting what you said originally. An assumption is made off of little or no data. My statements have been obtained from the ample conversations we have having.

I am actually still waiting for your opinion hun. You have told me what you would do if a taken man would flirt with you and what you would do if your man was flirted with. You have then done what my father does, when he has no comprehension of the argument. You found something that is variable and gray, like a metaphor, and you pick at it. You pick and you pick and you pick until the topic has completely changed or until someone calls you on it. So I will ask you once again to answer my original question. Who is wrong when it comes to cheating. You did a great job of answering my other questions. However, you have yet to answer the main one. If you feel no need to answer the question. Feel free to just leave. I get it your mind is closed. You refuse to see my metaphors, I get it. So answer my question. Single person and taken person start a going through the human mating process :O I am sorry, start flirting There nice and innocent for you. Through this they start having a relationship. Who is in the wrong and why.

 

[Equinox]

Are you being serious ..? Nah, you can't be serious. This is too ridiculous. I'm just gonna assume you're trying to pull my finger now, and laugh at all that.

 

[Ghost Boy]

I currently have a job and I'm looking for other jobs. Does that make me a cheater?...