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Oh yes...Skorian...Lead the way. It's time for a revolution.
Enlighten one...:p

Btw...do I have to grow side burns to join your army?
You have the ingrident to make the ultimate pipe bomb...yes?
Do I have to make a yearly pilgrimage to Timothy's grave to stay connected to what's real, too ?
Yes..yes Rockafella said he didn't want smart workers/work force...I wanted a hard working work force.
Are you going to adopt this same principle in your army as will ?..Don't think just follow Skorain...:p

However I think you should lead by fucken example...STOP paying your taxes.
Then get everyone to stop pay thier taxes...
Wihtout fucken money the goverment can't function or operate...
See...I think my idea is cool...you can adopt it.
No ******** though....

Walk the talk...stop paying your taxes and stop taking the fucken bus too.:p
 
I'm not saying these theories are wrong or untrue history is funny because if no one remember s and if there is no evidence of something then it never happen the whole if a tree fall in the woods and no around to hear does it make a sound question

the truth is what other call evidence can just be a series of coincidences that causes people to jump to conclusions

I'm not going to say the theories aren't true I'm not going to research either my personal feelings are that ignorance is bliss I'm personally happier not know the truth yes its sad maybe even a shame but I'm happier living in my fairytale that the government is honest with the people

but if it is true skorian what should we do march to Washington start an all nation riot leave the country or just except are nation is run by devils

yes the truth is important only when your looking for it
by revealing the truth you possibly will cause more pain then relief more trouble then most people can stand for

Gandhi once said if what you chose to do doesn't help then make sure it doesn't hurt i have respect for because your hearts in the right place

but if your right we just aren't ready to believe in devil and that heroes don't triumph in the end

skorian maybe you can except it but let the rest of us dream a little while longer please
 
Jesse said:
Radical. While most of the younger people of the United States only care about reality tv and gossip celebrity news, you've got all these in-depth views and stances on things that people havn't even heard about. (most people)

Now the 9/11 inside job "conspiracy". I agree with you. I think it was an inside job. I think Bush needed a front to get a foothold over there. What I don't get is how he could get away with overthrowing a government and hanging its leader and not be called a terrorist himself.
The problem with the oil theory is that the US can't own the oil. In general corporations are self-driven and sell to the highest bidder. There is a great deal I don't fully understand, but I do know that Saddam was looking to trade on the euro rather then the dollar shortly before 2001. Don't fully understand what that means, but I guess it scared alot of folks. We sort of did already have a foothold, so I guess I have a hard time fully believing it was about oil.

You have to understand that corporations are separate from we the people in a sense. What is bad for us can be good for a company or more importantly the board of directors and upper management of a company. And so I think people figured they could make huge profits off Bush's administration. Tax dollars were spent recklessly. The war profiteers documentary gets into that. It is a result of how contracts were drawn up. There were sorta like loopholes in the contracts that allowed for serious wastage and userism. We the people were mugged and raped and some people still can't even believe it... This alone is all the motive needed to do what was done.

The motive behind this was a means to change legislation and the means for several industries to make massive profits by sinking their claws into tax dollars. Oil is just a scapegoat. It is a sign that corporations have WAY too much power over our democratic system of government. Which is a sign that we the people are totally losing power. It is a direct result of several problems that have been brewing in Washington.

I have watched interviews with members of our congress and basically they were outright asked “what is going on?” and “how is this happening?”. (If I can find/remember a documentary that goes into it I will post it.) The gist of it is they were taken by surprise and their authority was basically ignored. Bush’s administration sorta just stepped over how things are supposed to function. Not even exaggerating we largely had a dictatorship for nearly 8 years… How it happened is that they let themselves get bullied, manipulated, and they didn’t revoke his power and get the American people in the know to stop him. If they had taken it public, then things would have been very different. Instead they seemed to sort of hide in shame that it could happen. It is very disturbing that it could happen. It is almost right out of Roman history... Same sort of **** went on in Rome.

And meanwhile moron's in this country are/were letting it happen by not even trying to understand the situation. Getting their heads lost in nonesense and fantasy. I am not really sure if it is over or not. It is a nightmare and it is real. People can however convince themselves that it isn't real.
Lonesome Crow said:
Oh yes...Skorian...Lead the way. It's time for a revolution.
Enlighten one...:p

Btw...do I have to grow side burns to join your army?
You have the ingrident to make the ultimate pipe bomb...yes?
Do I have to make a yearly pilgrimage to Timothy's grave to stay connected to what's real, too ?
Yes..yes Rockafella said he didn't want smart workers/work force...I wanted a hard working work force.
Are you going to adopt this same principle in your army as will ?..Don't think just follow Skorain...:p

However I think you should lead by fucken example...STOP paying your taxes.
Then get everyone to stop pay thier taxes...
Wihtout fucken money the goverment can't function or operate...
See...I think my idea is cool...you can adopt it.
No ******** though....

Walk the talk...stop paying your taxes and stop taking the fucken bus too.:p
Dude, I am by no means leading anything. I am just passing along info so that people can have a clue what is going on and maybe try to help. Or at least not stand in the way of a resolution. It requires reforming our government and removing those who are abusing their power, from power. Many people, including myself, are sorta hoping Obama will do it, but I really doubt it.

Collapsing our government is a “horrible idea”. The problem isn't government, it is other things. There is no option to not have a government. Part of the problem is a public that doesn't take politics seriously or take responsibility for problems. We don't take the time to elect good people and then wonder why they run away with our money. We expect someone else to fix it and throw money at them. We don't hold them to doing what is right. Instead we go off on things that don't matter like their fidelity. It is a complex problem I could go on for pages my theories as to why it is.

Many people don't pay their taxes. Research it. There is as best I can tell really no law requiring it, but that doesn't mean you won't go to jail if caught. Taxing income is outright unconstitutional. So that is supposed to be why they couldn't make a law.

And even if we pay no taxes, taxes are brought in by many other means.

If people did try to attack our government they would get mowed down, like grass by a lawn mower, with today’s weaponry.... You would be attacking good as well as bad people. It makes no sense.
Haven said:
I'm not saying these theories are wrong or untrue history is funny because if no one remember s and if there is no evidence of something then it never happen the whole if a tree fall in the woods and no around to hear does it make a sound question

I think it is more a matter of the fact that there is no way to absolutly know truth from none truth. No one is ever 100% right or 100% wrong. And people can simply choose to deny what is real, no matter what the truth really is.

the truth is what other call evidence can just be a series of coincidences that causes people to jump to conclusions

At some point however, coincidences stack up to be very very improbable. If I see someone flipping a coin and they get 20 heads in a row. I will assume the coin is a trick coin with a heads on both sides or that the coin is weighted. You can’t just say everything is coincidence.

I'm not going to say the theories aren't true I'm not going to research either my personal feelings are that ignorance is bliss I'm personally happier not know the truth yes its sad maybe even a shame but I'm happier living in my fairytale that the government is honest with the people

but if it is true skorian what should we do march to Washington start an all nation riot leave the country or just except are nation is run by devils

No, we should figure out who is honest and support them in removing the ******** who are behind corrupt practices.

yes the truth is important only when your looking for it
by revealing the truth you possibly will cause more pain then relief more trouble then most people can stand for

Uh, so what your saying is you feel helpless?

Gandhi once said if what you chose to do doesn't help then make sure it doesn't hurt i have respect for because your hearts in the right place

but if your right we just aren't ready to believe in devil and that heroes don't triumph in the end

There is evil in the world. Why didn't you believe it to begin with?

skorian maybe you can except it but let the rest of us dream a little while longer please

Because in the process of allowing it to happen, people are hurting people. If people didn't have this attitude, it never would have happened to begin with.
 
Skorian said:
Jesse said:
Radical. While most of the younger people of the United States only care about reality tv and gossip celebrity news, you've got all these in-depth views and stances on things that people havn't even heard about. (most people)

Now the 9/11 inside job "conspiracy". I agree with you. I think it was an inside job. I think Bush needed a front to get a foothold over there. What I don't get is how he could get away with overthrowing a government and hanging its leader and not be called a terrorist himself.
The problem with the oil theory is that the US can't own the oil. In general corporations are self-driven and sell to the highest bidder. There is a great deal I don't fully understand, but I do know that Saddam was looking to trade on the euro rather then the dollar shortly before 2001. Don't fully understand what that means, but I guess it scared alot of folks. We sort of did already have a foothold, so I guess I have a hard time fully believing it was about oil.

You have to understand that corporations are separate from we the people in a sense. What is bad for us can be good for a company or more importantly the board of directors and upper management of a company. And so I think people figured they could make huge profits off Bush's administration. Tax dollars were spent recklessly. The war profiteers documentary gets into that. It is a result of how contracts were drawn up. There were sorta like loopholes in the contracts that allowed for serious wastage and userism. We the people were mugged and raped and some people still can't even believe it... This alone is all the motive needed to do what was done.

The motive behind this was a means to change legislation and the means for several industries to make massive profits by sinking their claws into tax dollars. Oil is just a scapegoat. It is a sign that corporations have WAY too much power over our democratic system of government. Which is a sign that we the people are totally losing power. It is a direct result of several problems that have been brewing in Washington.

I have watched interviews with members of our congress and basically they were outright asked “what is going on?” and “how is this happening?”. (If I can find/remember a documentary that goes into it I will post it.) The gist of it is they were taken by surprise and their authority was basically ignored. Bush’s administration sorta just stepped over how things are supposed to function. Not even exaggerating we largely had a dictatorship for nearly 8 years… How it happened is that they let themselves get bullied, manipulated, and they didn’t revoke his power and get the American people in the know to stop him. If they had taken it public, then things would have been very different. Instead they seemed to sort of hide in shame that it could happen. It is very disturbing that it could happen. It is almost right out of Roman history... Same sort of **** went on in Rome.

And meanwhile moron's in this country are/were letting it happen by not even trying to understand the situation. Getting their heads lost in nonesense and fantasy. I am not really sure if it is over or not. It is a nightmare and it is real. People can however convince themselves that it isn't real.

*couch* bull *cough* ****
 
Pie, I'd be interested to see a nice, well thought out post on why you think these theories and claims are incorrect.
 
Jesse said:
Pie, I'd be interested to see a nice, well thought out post on why you think these theories and claims are incorrect.

So would I my friend, so would I.
 
PieBeNice said:
*couch* bull *cough* ****
You and reality don't see eye to eye, do you?

PieBeNice said:
Jesse said:
Pie, I'd be interested to see a nice, well thought out post on why you think these theories and claims are incorrect.
So would I my friend, so would I.
*rolls eyes*



Corporations are supposed to serve us. We are not supposed to serve them.
 
Skorian said:
PieBeNice said:
Jesse said:
Pie, I'd be interested to see a nice, well thought out post on why you think these theories and claims are incorrect.
So would I my friend, so would I.
*rolls eyes*



Corporations are supposed to serve us. We are not supposed to serve them.

Are these the same corporations that did that moon landing UFO thing you were on about.
 
Come on ..Skorain

Now people complain, bitch and moan about Obamma putting money back into the US...wheather through health care
or green energy projects...etc

Our highways, bridges alone ...are in so much need of up grading and maintenance.
The USA's electricity gride/powerline/power stations/power transformers is so freaken out date and in need of major maintenace.
Investment as such would keep capitals in the USA and put millions of people back to work.
Investing in alternative energy R&D would decline in the US's dependency on outside resource.
But hell no...that's too simple. Poeple will debept about this **** until the next millinium.
Too much government involvment or it's going to become a socialist society.
People don't know what the **** they want...

Actaully people do...Americans want all their **** now..now..now, more...more...more
Bigger, faster, shinier...The good life.the fucken MTV relality life..lmao.
FFS...did you get the lastest and greatest fucken Iphone yet ????...it has a fucken vedio recorder in it...woooo hooo.
You can take a smexy picture of yourself if you have one of those..Skorian..:p

It's fucken retarded..just like California is selling electricity to another state and then purchasing
that same eletricity back at a higher coast....
Of course most of that **** is just on fucken paper or contracts.
But california is going fucken bankrupt...ya see..:p

The Cailfornia's government can't afford to build fucken UFO's..man.
There's little fucken fire ants cuasing fires all over the state trying to burn the state.lmao
Alien ants from alien ant farms...probably.lol
 
PieBeNice said:
Are these the same corporations that did that moon landing UFO thing you were on about.
No... *rolls eyes*

I think the people that believe that think that NASA and our entire government are out to get them personally or something.

Is NASA an actual corporation? I think it is more of an organization... I really don't know how NASA works though. I think that the idea that we would waste money sending rockets up into space to not land on the moon is pretty absurd. Can we not see, with the right equipment, flags on the moon? We have been to mars and many other places. Would they claim that satellites don't exist? All the footage from mars I have seen is fake? I had a minor interest in the theory that we haven't been to the moon and looked at what they said years ago. Think it had been on the discovery channel at some point. Most of their theories seem to center around a lack of shadows on the moon or something. It really made no sense. Shadows during winter with snow on the ground are different then during other seasons, due to the reflective surface of white substances. It would be pretty hard to deceive people in the ways they are claiming. It is about like claiming that airplanes don't exist. Crazy people do exist. *rolls eyes*

While I do believe there are probably aliens in the Universe and probably have been some here on earth. Theories I have heard about alien conspiracies on earth make little sense and have even weaker evidence. So I do not really think it is worth further time to waste understanding. Unless someone had some really solid proof, I don't see myself changing my mind anytime soon.

Saying bad things couldn’t happen is like saying that L.A. police officers don’t beat innocent people just for *****. Like saying that someone would stop them. Who would stop them? Sometimes they are stopped and sometimes not. Are all L.A. police officers corrupt? No, but that doesn’t mean that none are. *rolls eyes*

Watch the profiteers documentary, it details the exact corporations that robbed us and gives eye witness testimony. Explains what they did, why, and shows footage of them doing it.

Honestly, you’re so ignorant that it is rather absurd. You have no clue what is going on in the world around you. Wake up.
 
dain it...Skorian

All you have to do is ask...who the fucken was holding the god damn camera when the lunar capsule
was taking off from the fucken moon ????

There a fucken astronuaut running around on the fucken moon with a god damn carmera
for the past 40 odd years making foot prints in the sand playing fucken hop skoch:p

Ask the right questions man...
You know how fucken hot it is at the equator or summer time on earth ???
Well...****...when the moon rotates to where it's closer to the sun...shouldn't those damn astronants
vaporized or fucken melt ??? Mother fuckers weren't dancing around in pitch darkness...ya know what I'm saying.
I don't know how much hotter it is on the moon when the sunlight hits it..a couple hunred degrees to thousands
degrees higher than what's on the earth...

And shouldn't that samething happens when the moon is furthest from the sun and when the astronants
are on the darkside of the moon...shouldn't they freeze to fucken death..:p

I mean..I don't see a kick ass refrigeration equipments on their suits...A/C or heater...lmao

Even if they did have sometype of a/c units on the suits...that mother fucken suit still has to get super
cold or supper hot....

have you ever felt the water coming out of a garden hose when it's expose to sunlight all day.
the water is fucken super fucken hot man...
What I'm saying is...even the oxegen tanks would still be effected by the temperature and the
oxegen in the tank too.

All things created my man are subject to heat or lack of heat.
Shouldn't the rocket or capsule expand or contract ?
what happens when things expends and contract...?? They don't fit nice and tight anymore. Things fall apart.
Wouldn't the face shield on the astronant's suit expand ? Maybe a leak here and there ? :p
The glass on the helmet has to be made out of some super duper fucken glass for it to with stand
extreem temperature but yet thin enough for it to be fitted on a helmet:p
That damn helmet should wiegh a fucken ton on earth...man
You can't just be carrying that **** aroud for a photo opt..lmao

Pour hot coffee into a wine glass and see...lmao

The moon dosn't have an atmophere or a magnitic field to protect it....so how in the ****
was all of the electronic equipments working properly ?
 
Lonesome Crow said:
dain it...Skorian

All you have to do is ask...who the fucken was holding the god damn camera when the lunar capsule
was taking off from the fucken moon ????

There a fucken astronuaut running around on the fucken moon with a god damn carmera
for the past 40 odd years making foot prints in the sand playing fucken hop skoch:p

Sadly, people can lie. Sure it is evidence, but it is far from full proof.

Ask the right questions man...
You know how fucken hot it is at the equator or summer time on earth ???
Well...****...when the moon rotates to where it's closer to the sun...shouldn't those damn astronants vaporized or fucken melt ???

Um, I don't recall how all that works. Space is supposed to be pretty cold. The moon has no atmosphere so I think it is cold, even in sunlight. Planets that have atmosphere I think it can end up being scorching. But I don't really know, could have this wrong.

Mother fuckers weren't dancing around in pitch darkness...ya know what I'm saying.
I don't know how much hotter it is on the moon when the sunlight hits it..a couple hunred degrees to thousands
degrees higher than what's on the earth...

I am sure it is a little warmer, but most, probably nearly all, reflects off right into space.

And shouldn't that samething happens when the moon is furthest from the sun and when the astronants
are on the darkside of the moon...shouldn't they freeze to fucken death..:p

Heat sort of works like sound. Did you know there is no sound in a vacuum? Sound ceases to exist. I think sound and other energy waves can travel through it, but do not exist in it or leave a mark. There is sorta nothing for it to stick to. Gases are the only reason you can hear. Or something like this.

Their white suits would repel most light and as long as the heat can't escape it wouldn't go anywhere. Since there is nothing to absorb the heat or transmit the cold. So the only way the suit would heat up inside would be through the presence of outside gases. The same with cold. I suppose a black suit might be fatal though as it would heat up the gases inside the suit by absorbing the suns energy.


I mean..I don't see a kick ass refrigeration equipments on their suits...A/C or heater...lmao

They do have both. I am sure of that. I don't think it would require much on the moon.

Even if they did have sometype of a/c units on the suits...that mother fucken suit still has to get super
cold or supper hot....

have you ever felt the water coming out of a garden hose when it's expose to sunlight all day.
the water is fucken super fucken hot man...
What I'm saying is...even the oxegen tanks would still be effected by the temperature and the
oxegen in the tank too.

And hoses are a dark color, sitting against the earth, contained within rubber so the heat can't as easily escape, and surrounded by our gaseous atmosphere.

All things created my man are subject to heat or lack of heat.
Shouldn't the rocket or capsule expand or contract ?

They are designed to compensate for it. Research the stealth bombers and SR71 blackbird for example. The heat caused by the friction they generate from traveling through the air makes them expand and contract. If we can put a sub under water, then we can put a sub in space. Did you know you have hundreds of pounds of pressure pushing on you right now? That weight changes according to weather patterns. We are also spinning through space at insane speeds.

what happens when things expends and contract...?? They don't fit nice and tight anymore. Things fall apart.

Nonesense.

Wouldn't the face shield on the astronant's suit expand ? Maybe a leak here and there ? :p
The glass on the helmet has to be made out of some super duper fucken glass for it to with stand
extreem temperature but yet thin enough for it to be fitted on a helmet:p

I am not sure it is glass.

Pour hot coffee into a wine glass and see...lmao

Huh? See what?

The moon dosn't have an atmophere or a magnitic field to protect it....so how in the ****
was all of the electronic equipments working properly ?

All objects of any mass have a magnetic field equivalent to their mass. Even atoms have a magnetic field. The moons field may not be the same as ours, but you need to understand that gravity/magnetic field is sorta the same thing. Atoms have gravity, but it is VERY VERY small. And our atmosphere both reflects heat and keeps it in. If the earth can exist in space, then so too can smaller bodies. We may never be able to land on some planets though. As far as working properly, electronics tend to love the cold.
 
Skorian...what the **** are you trying to say? :p
Can't you just come right out and say...everyone have thier head up thier ass, you're right and have all the fucken answers..lmao

I was trying to help you with your conspiracy crap...now that **** ain't working for you either.

Yes..hello you don't need fucken wings in space..so how the **** would sound exist in fucken
space without air ??? duh...

Nothing fucken works for you.....

Here's the trick...or truth.

Whatver the **** it is your brain is prejecting , conceieving..it's not it.
You're fucken eyes dosn't even see what the hell it is in front of you.
Your fucken eyes recieve data half ass fucken backwards anyway...
With that simulie...your fucken brain generate chemicles and electric charges to your brain to create images in your mind.
It happens very, very fucken fast. Even as fast as it occur. Your brain is always fucken lagging.
Whatever how many..milli sec behind that is...You're percetion, thoughts are also slower than what's actually happening.
You're fucken brain generate all the images you see ...but your fucken brain mix that **** up with what's in it's memory.
This is what you're perception is...it is alway clouded with your memory bank or whatever the **** brain food you feeded
it previously.

Lawyers knows this...that's why they just say **** anyway wheather it's ture or not.
The words are forever embeded in the jury's mind.

Why do you think...your time perceptions changes when you come off of a freeway onto surface street ?
Why in the hell do you think a professional baseball player can swing at a ball traveling at 100 mph but looks like slow motion.
it's in the brain percetions or resonanting frequenzy.

Magicians knows this...the hands are always faster than the eyes...in other words faster than the fucken brain.


Just like the fucken bees have a differnent perception vision of whatever the **** it is here and now.

In other words...whatever the **** picture, image, delusions you hold in you fucken mind...it's not it.
Poeple , places and things will never fit perfectly into your fucken ideas of whatever the hell is it you have
going on in your fucken head. IT IS REALITY...WAKE the **** UP.
 
Lonesome Crow said:
Skorian...what the **** are you trying to say? :p

I was trying to help you with your conspiracy crap...now that **** ain't working for you either.

Nothing fucken works for you.....

Here's the trick...or truth.

Whatver the **** it is your brain is prejecting , conceieving..it's not it.
You're fucken eyes dosn't even see what the hell it is in front of you.
Your fucken eyes recieve data half ass fucken backwards anyway...
With that simulie...your fucken brain generate chemicles and electric charges to your brain to create images in your mind.
It happens very, very fucken fast. Even as fast as it occur. Your brain is always fucken lagging.
Whatever how many..milli sec behind that is...You're percetion, thoughts are also slower than what's actually happening.
You're fucken brain generate all the images you see ...
Just like the fucken bees has a differnent perception vision of whatever the **** it is here and now.

In other words...whatever the **** picture, image, delusions you hold in you fucken mind...it's not it.
Poeple , places and things will never fit perfectly into your fucken ideas of whatever the hell is it you have
going on in your fucken head. IT IS REALITY...WAKE the **** UP.
Crow. I know exactly what I am saying. You are the one who is way confused.

From what I can recall the big motive behind those who think we haven't been to the moon is that they think that aliens won't allow us to leave the planet or some nonsense. Their logic, that they have tried to prove, is that the moon landing was footage taken somewhere on the earth. They want people to think that the landing is taken under lights that remove the astronaut’s shadows or some nonsense. It has been years since I looked at it. I refuted several of these claims in this thread to show that their craziness is full of obvious flaws. Flaws that are plain as day if you know a bit about physics and how things work. And I do not fall for such obvious BS.

I don't know why I even bother. Your mind is swiss cheese. It is sad to see. You should go around and use yourself as evidence to not use drugs, to help people. You might prevent someone from living the life that you are. Prevent them from ending up in the same mental state.

I don't even know why I am talking about this topic; it has nothing to do with loose change. Nothing at all. Only crazy people try to draw a correlation between things that have no connection. Which I won't comment on further. *rolls eyes*


The destruction of the world trade centers was a self-inflicted wound and it is not a conspiracy. It is a fact. It was done out of greed and lack of caring about life. We got suckered into a war that makes no sense and does not fight real terrorism. Suckered into a war completely based upon very deliberate lies and are now stuck there trying to clean up the mess we made. Millions of people know this to be the truth. Yet many many more have not been given the chance to see for themselves all the evidence that has been gathered.

I challenge people to not even bother commenting, unless you have actually watched loose change.
 
Punisher said:
Jesse said:
What about the one where Osama Bin Laden is really a cia operative used as a made-up reason for us to invade over there?

Don't be so silly, Jesse. Everyone knows Osama Bin Laden was really sent back in time to prevent the death of the future resistance leader John Conner. Haven't you watched the documentary?

For 9/11 i reckon where looking in the wrong places, if the muslims did do it, then how don't we know there not hiding in a UK country....wales for example

maybe there near...newport? >.>

i'd like to see your passport punny-poo please (mouthful of a sentence there lol)
 
FFS...I doupt it my ass...

How the hell do you think we use to make parts fit or take parts apart that's been press in ?
We fucken freeze certain parts to make them shrink or contract.
Or we heat up certain parts to make them expand.

Talk to any machanic..and they know damn will parts come loose due to contractions and
expansion. Cracks or fractures form on material due to contraction and expansion.

Why the hell do you think they inspect air liners all the time ?
The jets expand and contract all the time.

Hello...everybody knows cold air is thicker than hot air. That's grammer school stuff.

You're just shooting from the fucken hips...you're not an expert in any of the fields.
You just watch the **** from the net and draw your own conclusion
bascailly talking out of your ass..

Whatever the **** you don't agree with...you just fucken toss out therefore drawing
your own conclusion...bascailly living in fucken denial. Selective thinking or selective memories.

In other words...you see what you want to see..
Like someone said many many post ago..you belive what you want to belive.
 
What are you trying to say Van?

Oh the Muslims did do it, but the trick is the trail of money... Who do you think funded 9/11? Where do you think several of the so called terrorists were months before 9/11? Several were trained in government facilities. Several of the so called terrorists on those planes are still alive and had nothing to do with 9/11.

I have seen several sources that suggest that we have been close to getting Osama several times and let him get away on purpose... (Not that killing him would have much effect on terrorism in the world.) He used to work for the CIA. There is a fair bit of evidence that he still does. The matter though is proving it in court. But to do that is not so easy considering who the defendants would be... The truth may never be acknowledged. The culprits may never go to trial. They are sort of above the law.

Lonesome Crow said:
How the hell do you think we use to make parts fit or take parts apart that's been press in ?
We fucken freeze certain parts to make them shrink or contract.
Or we heat up certain parts to make them expand.

And this has what to do with 9/11? Oh, that is right. Nothing...

Talk to any machanic..and they know damn will parts come loose due to contractions and
expansion...or cracks or fracture form on material due to contraction and expansion.

Uh, I never said they don't. I said that things were designed to account for that.

Why the hell do you think they inspect air liners all the time ?
The jets expand and contract all the time.

Uh, it is the moving parts that they are more keen on maintaining. The electronics. Mechanical parts. The planes are built of alloys that wouldn't expend or contract all that much. I am sure there are problem on occasion, but if what your trying to say were true you would see alot of planes going down.

Hello...everybody knows cold air is thicker than hot air.

So what? You saying there is air in space?

You're just shooting from the fucken hips...you're not an expert in any of the fields.
You just watch the **** from the net and draw your own conclusion
bascailly talking out of your ass..

*rolls eyes*

Whatever the **** you don't agree with...you just fucken toss out therefore drawing
your own conclusion...bascailly living in fucken denial. Selective think or selective memories.

Way to ramble about nothing specific.

In other words...you see what you want to see..
Like someone say many many post ago..you belive what you want to belive.

I said that. I am sorry you are the way you are. I wish I knew how to help you.

And "all" this has what to do with 9/11? Oh, that is right. Nothing...

*Slugs you with your own hand*
 
damn.. do i have to watch the whole thing before i can make a post?

meh.. maybe i'll download it later.. bout to go to work so theres a few hours for download...

but i had a friend that loved all this conspiracy stuff and would give me heaps of these movies.. including stuff on 9/11 and though i dont remember the details and all the evidence that suggested that it was perpetrated by psychos in your administration i do remember a couple of things that seemed difficult to explain..

one was that apparently the supporting internal girders of the twin towers were unable to melt at the temperatures experienced by the explosion of the planes.. fuel doesnt burn at high enough temperatures to cause the effect that was sustained by the girders..
apparently only some other form of explosion was necessary to damage them in the way they were damaged.. i would have to go with the 'reputable' experts on this one...

and the other thing i remember is that never before in the history of burning buildings has a building that had a fire at the TOP caused it to crumble in such a way as the twin towers did.. and the timeframe makes it all the more unbelievable..

i would also like to add that experts speaking of the towers mentioned that the way they fell to the ground was perfectly consistant with 'controlled demolition' techniques.

even though i am not an expert i believe that it was organised and controlled destruction for the simple motivation/justification for your country to wreck havoc in the middle east. you guys got unlucky and had a whole clan of psychos in the administration all at once... plotting war and blowing each other on the weekends.

see i reckon that if you do something crazy on such a scale that it seems 'unbelievable'.. it will probably not be believed by the majority..
and if it is.. so what? what can they do anyway..? the majority is powerless.. unless its organised.. and then the government has tanks.. trumps.

the twin towers was a giant, explosive, once in a lifetime scam imo to give the psycho powers that be the freedom to take away everybody else's freedom.. and in the meantime.. innocent people died...

i am not a violent person.. but i would kill every last one of those fuckers over and over again.. then i would take a nap.. refresh and kill the fuckers over and over again... time well spent.
 
mmmm...I want these conspricy people to explain to me...what was the purpose of why
one of the jets crashed into a fucken corn field ?

Uncle sam had extra money to burn and extra people to kill probably..:p

Poeple actaully spoke to love once on that flight before they bitched slapped those hi jackers.

And what **** up nut wad CIA agent wound wanna volunteer for a fucken suicide mission?lmao
Die so other mother fuckers can get fat and rich ? Take one up the ass for GWB...man

I guess the previous bombing of the world trade center was a set up too ?
 
Yup. There is testimony of several of the architects from the trade towers on this documentary.
 

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