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Good advice from Callie & Ceno, take the money for your tooth it's important that you get it sorted asap.

I would have no problem giving my daughter money, if she ever asked, when I'm gone she gets the lot anyway, so yeah I'd think of it as an advance.
 
If a person from your past makes significant self improvement, are they still the same person in your mind, or are you able to see that improvement and evolution of character development?
 
If a person from your past makes significant self improvement, are they still the same person in your mind, or are you able to see that improvement and evolution of character development?
That's a good question man. I've recently had renewed contact with someone from my past and, yeah, ....she seems a much better and well rounded person but I still can't see past the car crash our relationship was.
 
That's a good question man. I've recently had renewed contact with someone from my past and, yeah, ....she seems a much better and well rounded person but I still can't see past the car crash our relationship was.

Thanks.
The reason I asked is because my ex decided to pick a fight with me and while I'm at least working on self improvement, she's just being her usual toxic, bratty sub self. The trouble with this, is that I'm psychotic, and my psychosis is exaggerated by her brattyness. Eventually she fessed up that she's not happy with the guy that she chose over me and wanted to complain about him cheating (she cheated on me with him, so I mean, I just outright ignored that) and basically I kind of point blank told her that Love is kind of like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny to me these days, it's just the third thing that doesn't really actually exist.

But it's been so long, and she's still, made no personal drive forward. She's more co-dependently driven and I'm more independently driven. I'm kind of on my last thread of hoping she'll ever actually grow up. Her and I are the same age and I know a handful of other, younger women who are more mature. 🤷‍♂️ :( I'm really starting to feel like it's just never going to happen. These younger women don't want me either, but I mean, the stark contrast between maturity and that they're....between 6 and 10 years younger, so, I mean 🤷‍♂️:(.
 
If a person from your past makes significant self improvement, are they still the same person in your mind, or are you able to see that improvement and evolution of character development?

I see the improvement, but I'm still cautious with them. Once someone loses my trust, it's nearly impossible to get it back, depending on what caused the breach of trust, of course.
 
Not sure if a question is exactly for this thread, but I don't want to make a new one.

What do you think about parents giving money to their adult(healthy and not in any force majeure situation) children?
And about helping in general?

Sorry for a lot of words, I'm really lost and would be happy to hear, what do you think. Me as a parent and me as a child are in a big conflict. I can't decide which one me is right )
I don't think getting money from your parents, when you are an adult(very adult) is good(unless it's a birtday small present or some special situation), and my parents suggest to help me(they can afford it).
I live now in the same town as my parents and besides some thing I don't like here, I am running out of money. I didn't have a lot of savings when I moved and I needed and still do a lot of money to pay to stay here, so all I earn is spent for this and living. In any case of extra needs(f.e. I have a sudden problem with a tooth and I'm not sure I can pay for it myself, neither it can wait till the next month) I'll have to ask my parents.
So the other opportunitie is just to return home(life's cheaper there and I don't have to rent a flat), my parents hate this idea though. They become nervous and very angry when we discuss it. They say I'll ruin my kid's life due to my "stupid attempts to prove someone something". I don't think it's as dangerous as they think, but must confess, nothing good waits us there, the only good thing is a better education that I can afford there(or here my parents will help with the school, however they say "it's just money, why to worry?" and it's what they suggest: to pay for food/clothes /classes for a kid and in a future for a school). I can borrow money, but they will refuse to take it back and I don't know when I can return it.
On the one hand, I think that it's not suitable, I'm adult, I'm healthy, I can work and so on.
On the other, I also think that if it was my daughter, I would like to help her and to stay near her and my grandchildren. And well, I'd rather be with her but without money, than with money but without her. Maybe my parents are right and the only reason why I think to take my parent's help is bad idea because I'm the looser in the family(both my father and my brother earn a few times more) and I'm trying to prove, I'm not. Maybe I should just accept it.
1. - From a moral perspective, you are concerned about the situation (you have concern about accepting financial help); therefore we can conclude, that you are not a moocher.
1a. - Therefore you are not a loser, as it concerns receiving money.

2. - From a personal/psychological aspect, there is an aspect of self esteem and perhaps pride. Where A = accepting financial help from parents; and where B = solving your financial problems on your own merits; it seems that (A = failure and being a loser and having less financial concerns in the near term and perhaps money for schooling and a desire to repay what is considered a debt); and (B = not being a loser and possibly having to return). This is how you have defined things, to put it simply.
2a. - Obviously there are more considerations. Let's remove the failure and loser part of the definitions.
2b. - (A = having less financial concerns in the near term and perhaps money for schooling and a desire to repay what is considered a debt); and (B = possibly having to return.)

In my experience, most A/B situations in life are lose/lose situations. If you choose A, you lose. If you chose B, you lose. So from an efficiency stand-point. Make the choice that requires the least effort. You will still lose; but, you will have made the most efficient choice.

Then there is the Biblical perspective, like the parable of the bags of gold (Mathew 25:14-30). From that perspective, in receiving money, one has the opportunity to multiply it.

If you want to repay the money, you can, 'pay-it-forward,' and donate money to charitable causes, if your parents won't accept money. Or you can use the money you would have repaid them, and make a goal to multiply the money. etc.. etc..

I've shot myself in the foot before in a similar situation. I did the best with the information I had at the time though; so, not much point in regretting things. I wanted to stand on my own two feet and do the right thing; and in the end, it didn't work out, and I may have just been being selfish in the end anyway...

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All one can do is the best they can with what they've got, at any particular moment

Quiet your mind, search your heart, and make the best decision you can; and just trust The Universe/God/etc..

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I see the improvement, but I'm still cautious with them. Once someone loses my trust, it's nearly impossible to get it back, depending on what caused the breach of trust, of course.

Feel that. Shoe's on the other foot, really. She lost mine. But it's been 10 years, I'm over it, we both have different lives, I'm just trying to figure out if co-existence is plausible again. We've been kicking around the idea of getting a place together because we lived together before, just as friends instead of as lovers. I very much think though that she's not over it, because while I try to forwardly handle my issues, she tries to ignore them. 😕

But I mean, it's been 10 years.
Hell, she's in a new relationship and all, and I have no quarrel with the guy, really. 🤷‍♂️ I'm not the same person I was 10 years ago, and she's having trouble wrapping her head around that. 😕 She told me about 3 years ago she hasn't dealt with it. But also 2 weeks ago she got antagonistic and passive-aggressive, so I'm thinking maybe now's not the time. 🤷‍♂️😕
 
Feel that. Shoe's on the other foot, really. She lost mine. But it's been 10 years, I'm over it, we both have different lives, I'm just trying to figure out if co-existence is plausible again. We've been kicking around the idea of getting a place together because we lived together before, just as friends instead of as lovers. I very much think though that she's not over it, because while I try to forwardly handle my issues, she tries to ignore them. 😕

But I mean, it's been 10 years.
Hell, she's in a new relationship and all, and I have no quarrel with the guy, really. 🤷‍♂️ I'm not the same person I was 10 years ago, and she's having trouble wrapping her head around that. 😕 She told me about 3 years ago she hasn't dealt with it. But also 2 weeks ago she got antagonistic and passive-aggressive, so I'm thinking maybe now's not the time. 🤷‍♂️😕
I would advise NOT living with an ex. There is so much potential for it to go badly. Doesn't matter if she is in a relationship or not. I'm not sure I could imagine that....."Hey boyfriend, I live with my ex, hope that's okay...." Or even with you and a new girlfriend. I can't think of one girl who wouldn't have issues with that. Even me, honestly.
 
I would advise NOT living with an ex. There is so much potential for it to go badly. Doesn't matter if she is in a relationship or not. I'm not sure I could imagine that....."Hey boyfriend, I live with my ex, hope that's okay...." Or even with you and a new girlfriend. I can't think of one girl who wouldn't have issues with that. Even me, honestly.

That's a good point. I told her maybe when we're in the 50+ age range. She didn't like that answer, methinks because it might've undermined her ego.
 
That's a good point. I told her maybe when we're in the 50+ age range. She didn't like that answer, methinks because it might've undermined her ego.
I have to concur in that direction too. Here's my view; I'm not friends with any of my exes, I'm friend-ly. Like polite, okay, but I don't go out of my way to keep a relationship with them. It's the past, I moved on. Girl I was talking to on a dating website has her ex living above her and they regularly spend time with each other, even talking about buying a house together. That gave me a lot of pause, I don't understand that to be honest. Another girl at work is seperated, yet still sleeps at her ex's, on the couch, for FIVE YEARS...I can't even imagine...

So yeah, irregardless of wether you have a good relationship or not, I don't think revisiting the past in that way is really wise. Especially if, as you say, she recently got antagonistic. I think it's a warning sign.
 
I have to concur in that direction too. Here's my view; I'm not friends with any of my exes, I'm friend-ly. Like polite, okay, but I don't go out of my way to keep a relationship with them. It's the past, I moved on. Girl I was talking to on a dating website has her ex living above her and they regularly spend time with each other, even talking about buying a house together. That gave me a lot of pause, I don't understand that to be honest. Another girl at work is seperated, yet still sleeps at her ex's, on the couch, for FIVE YEARS...I can't even imagine...

So yeah, irregardless of wether you have a good relationship or not, I don't think revisiting the past in that way is really wise. Especially if, as you say, she recently got antagonistic. I think it's a warning sign.

I was too nice to her when we were together. I was young, still in my teens, when we first got together. From 16 to 24, which is a growing period and gradually we just grew into different adults with different interests. I think part of the problem is that the guy she decided she wanted instead of me is 40 years older and basically just gamed her into having her and now that she's been with him for a while she's verbatim told me that it was all a bunch of ******** just to sleep with her and so now she's unhappy because he's actually emotionally and verbally abusive. Supposedly her and I came to a truce a long time ago after my relationships after her all failed and that schmuck broke down and confessed that he cheated on her multiple times throughout their relationship, with men...and he told her this on Christmas one year. Ssssooo she came to me with the whole proposition and idea. She didn't even know he was bisexual, he never told her, and I had no idea.

So I'm looking at it from a future housing perspective, and I think that she thinks that everything's just going to go back to the way it was before and she can just use me as a doormat again and I'm, well, I put my foot down for that reason. It's just ******, bro. 10 years seems like a long enough time to me, but I mean it's the dirty dishes factor, right? If you don't clean your dishes in the sink, they're just going to sit there until you get off your ass to do it, right? 🤷‍♂️ :(
 
If a person from your past makes significant self improvement, are they still the same person in your mind, or are you able to see that improvement and evolution of character development?
I would be able to see the improvement. In my experience, once people do truly improve, they don't come back to show me lol. And as I've improved in my own life, I don't feel particularly obligated to show them.
 
I would be able to see the improvement. In my experience, once people do truly improve, they don't come back to show me lol. And as I've improved in my own life, I don't feel particularly obligated to show them.

Yeah that's the weird part: She's always trying to come back to me. I'm in a totally different headspace and part of my life now, and quite frankly I don't want to go back down that hole again. It's disappointing that I'm trying to move forward but she's still stagnant. I've given up on it for now. She is not ready for my help yet.
 
If a person from your past makes significant self improvement, are they still the same person in your mind, or are you able to see that improvement and evolution of character development?
Difficult question... I try to see the improvements. But it doesn't mean we'll ever have the same relationship as we had
 
Difficult question... I try to see the improvements. But it doesn't mean we'll ever have the same relationship as we had

Mental elasticity of course is a factor. Everybody is different in that way. (y)
 
Okay okay question!

Would you join a dating site for intellectuals only? You have to answer a quiz set up by the other person to unlock their photos and ability to message them? 😅
 
Okay okay question!

Would you join a dating site for intellectuals only? You have to answer a quiz set up by the other person to unlock their photos and ability to message them? 😅
Hell no lol. I got enough quizzes popping up on fb. I'm actually guilty of doing so sometimes.
I had my fill of online dating. I don't believe it's serious enough.
 
Hell no lol. I got enough quizzes popping up on fb. I'm actually guilty of doing so sometimes.
I had my fill of online dating. I don't believe it's serious enough.
Boo you’re no fun I thought it was a good idea!
 

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