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Oldyoung said:
Scenario. If you had a partner, and he wanted/commanded you to dance for him. Would it be weird?

Dance together? Or break out the high heels and work a pole? Because I would dance with him, but I'm not too sure about being a fat stripper.
 
Rodent said:
There is something that really bothers me about that line of thought and this is about personal standards really. Would anybody in here purposely overlook bad attitudes/traits in a woman (or a man since we are in the women's thread) you'd like to date or just get to know better? I know you can't exactly tell at first glance whether a person has a shitty personality, but let's just assume you are in an environment for socializing where you have a chance to observe your surroundings a bit. Would you decide against your better judgment?

Cause what I'm getting from this is that we are just kinda superficial and if men decide to overlook bad behavior in women for the sake of appearance - and approach them only on that basis - it's just the way things go. Then the woman on the other end knows she only has to "look pretty" (but could act as horrible as she wants) to attract that caliber of men. Which might be good enough for her. And that's usually when I ask the question whether that's good enough for you guys out there.

Yeah, I don’t like what’s implied in these sort of statements. I wouldn’t overlook an obnoxious attitude simply because I found them attractive and I’m sure a lot of other guys wouldn’t either.They become significantly less attractive at that point. This unwittingly re-enforces negative perceptions about us (ie. we’re shallow beings, we objectify women), helping making it worse for all of us in the long run.

Maybe this is cowardice speaking but the ‘cold approach’ has never held much appeal either. I mean that would be why a lot people find their partners through their extended social circle, instead of sleazy approaches or awkward dates with a total stranger. Isn’t it normal to want to know something about them first, say in a more neutral setting? At least hear them speak for a few minutes…

Rodent said:
Maybe men would become just as supposedly "picky" because they could reject woman in the very same manner for the very same reasons that are attributed to women.

Probably. If you get a semi-regular ego boost from the opposite sex approaching or paying overt attention to you (ignoring the negative aspects for a moment), and feel you have more options, then yes, you will likely be pickier.

Rodent said:
You make it sound like a woman is some type of alien or a live bomb you have to tip-toe around...I just don't get why anyone would even want to be accepted by a person that instantly discards you because you showed that you are also just a god **** human being who is not perfectly confident 24/7. Hypothetically speaking, if somebody told me to get lost the second I acted I got a bit muddled in my approach, I'd gladly get rejected and tell myself good riddance.

I mean, if this is reality I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Because it would mean all the deep-level MGTOWs out there are right: Women are not people and they show no mercy.

Sure, so my theory is that the majority of the 'good ones' - the empathetic, fair minded people - are taken. So we're left around people who are more likely like to want to seek out attention for validation, people who might be more inclined to ruthlessly write off men who can't play by the script perfectly. This creates a sort of warped perception of the opposite sex amongst single men.

At least I hope that's the case because I'd rather not believe Skafish's reality either.
 
VanillaCreme said:
Dance together? Or break out the high heels and work a pole? Because I would dance with him, but I'm not too sure about being a fat stripper.

I guess you're implying it would be slightly awkward then.. Dance alone first and foremost, but including your partner is allowed.


AmytheTemperamental said:
I would dance for him. I would probably do it just to surprise him. Lol

*thumbs up*
surprises are nice
 
ardour said:
Sure, so my theory is that the majority of the 'good ones' - the empathetic, fair minded people - are taken and having families by this stage. We are left around people who are more likely like to want to seek out attention for validation, people who might be more inclined to ruthlessly write off men who can't play the script perfectly. This creates a sort of warped perception of the opposite sex amongst single men (and single women, considering that a lot of men are single for good reason too).

At least I hope that's the the case because I'd rather not believe Skafish's reality either.

All I know is that I'm a perfectly normal human male. It must be something else.
 
I'm seriously questioning my permanence here. Haven't found anything that can make a difference in how I feel. It¡s ok is that is funny to some; I guess I'm not supposed to share my feelings.
 
TheRealCallie said:
Xpendable said:
All I know is that I'm a perfectly normal human male. It must be something else.

Hate to break it to you, but no one is normal. lol

Isn't normal what is trending? So if us women are all awful, I guess that makes us normal :club:
 
Xpendable said:
All I know is that I'm a perfectly normal human male. It must be something else.

Yeah, because arguing with absolutely ******* everything is perfectly normal... Just saying... Not everyone can be wrong.
 
We're going off topic. Again. Just saying.

Here's another question for the ladies.

How do you feel about toy cars versus dolls?
 
My favourite toy was a hand me down track and cars. I loved it. I had dolls, but hardly ever played with them.
 
Serenia said:
My favourite toy was a hand me down track and cars. I loved it. I had dolls, but hardly ever played with them.

That's so neat, Serenia. I still have the slot car track and cars my dad got me for Christmas when I was a kid...actually, it probably spanned two or three more Christmases, but I saved them all.
 
Oldyoung said:
We're going off topic. Again. Just saying.

Here's another question for the ladies.

How do you feel about toy cars versus dolls?

Cars. For sure. I hate dolls. Evil little shits that come to life and bite people and run around... They're evil, I'm tellin' ya!
 
beautiful loser said:
Serenia said:
My favourite toy was a hand me down track and cars. I loved it. I had dolls, but hardly ever played with them.

That's so neat, Serenia. I still have the slot car track and cars my dad got me for Christmas when I was a kid...actually, it probably spanned two or three more Christmases, but I saved them all.

I wish I had saved that I can still remember the cars!

Just as a funny side add on. My ex sil took my nephew toy shopping with some vouchers once. He picked a bright pink pram, she thought it was funny but bil hated it...my nephew loved it.
 
My sister loved cars and I loved dolls but we loved each other so we murdered my dolls with her car :D
 
AmytheTemperamental said:
No, it doesn't in fact show that. It shows what the small population of men on ALL have to ask women. And why don't women ask as much of them? Because the men are always talking about it, and answering any questions we could possibly have. Observation is a powerful tool.

Or..it’s because we're perceived as losers - probably just by being on the forum - and few people care about what some self-identified loser single male thinks.
 

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