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Xpendable said:
If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then why makeup?

I haven't worn makeup for years. But when I did, I wore it because I liked it. It wasn't to look nice for other folks. I styled myself to how I liked it.
 
and sometimes women wear it because they are self conscious about themselves. Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder....and sometimes, when the beholder is yourself, you don't see yourself as others see you.
 
i like make-up because it is the only kind of drawing im relatively good at
i think i look shittier with lots of make up on
i dont wear it
bye
 
This is a little interesting at least.

For the ones that do wear makeup, would you feel as comfortable, confident, or attractive if you didn't wear it? For dates, or job interviews, or work, or just going out in general? How many public photos do you have where you are not wearing makeup?

I've noticed a lot of women seem to not wear makeup much on days where they don't have much going on or days where they want to relax and aren't going to be seen by anyone. If it really was just for yourself then why do you mostly only where it when others are going to be around?
 
kamya said:
This is a little interesting at least.

For the ones that do wear makeup, would you feel as comfortable, confident, or attractive if you didn't wear it? For dates, or job interviews, or work, or just going out in general? How many public photos do you have where you are not wearing makeup?

I don't find that make up makes me feel better about myself at all. I usually feel more sexy and confident with a clean face tbh. Make up is just what I turn to when I want to be a little more creative with myself.

But to answer your question, yes I can do without it. And most of pics feature me not wearing make up.
 
kamya said:
This is a little interesting at least.

For the ones that do wear makeup, would you feel as comfortable, confident, or attractive if you didn't wear it? For dates, or job interviews, or work, or just going out in general? How many public photos do you have where you are not wearing makeup?

I've noticed a lot of women seem to not wear makeup much on days where they don't have much going on or days where they want to relax and aren't going to be seen by anyone. If it really was just for yourself then why do you mostly only where it when others are going to be around?

I don't even have makeup anymore. I do want to start on my collection again. But it's been years since I even had any. The interviews and functions I've been to have been barefaced, with just my normal moisturizer. My makeup really was for myself. I didn't do my makeup in a way which made me look pretty. I did it how I wanted it, completely irrelevant to anyone's liking but my own.
 
I've only just started wearing it again and even then it's not that much and not that often. I feel too self-conscious wearing it,as if people are staring at me,so the majority of time I go out without make up on.
 
I don't really wear makeup... I wanted to be a makeup artist despite of it once, though! Haha. Only in some more formal situations etc. Makeup is really pretty and cool thing, just too lazy for that, lol.
 
Paraiyar said:
ardour said:
Because people in general have this tendency to subconsciously associate pleasant, attractive faces with positive character traits and unattractive faces with negative traits. Particularly when they feel they're safety may be at stake as is the case with women. The current fixation with toxic masculinity and cishet male privilege only exacerbates this.

It means not so good looking, awkward men are often viewed with suspicion in a way their better looking brethren. (Women are trusting their intuition, which is inevitably influenced by underlying biases, including appearance).

It might not be how you or a lot of women think but that doesn't disprove it as a feature in social situations.

It honestly sounds to me like you are too conscious of the idea of women finding you creepy and that may actually be projecting outwardly in how you act around women and so it winds up making them feel uncomfortable and becomes a self-fufilling prophecy. I know it can be hard but try and just forget about these things, it just sounds like they are holding you back socially.

I'd agree with this idea, that you can accidentally create the very problem you are trying to avoid by projecting your fears subconsciously. I did this all throughout my school years, believing that I was an ugly and low-status and that there was nothing I could do about it. Because I believed this about myself, it came out in the way I talked and carried myself. For me, it was a textbook case of the self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
Makeup can be many things to many people. I tend to think of it the way you would with clothing; it depends on the occasion, how I'm feeling, how I want to represent myself. It's no different from attire, in my mind at least, because you're not trying to become what you aren't, you're merely dressing well or casually depending on what is called for or your mood or whatever other factors. For a lot of people it's also a medium of creative expression. It's not something that is necessarily done for the sake of appearing 'attractive' or for attraction, but that could be one of it's many uses, and of course people use it that way just as they do with clothing. It is all just fine plumage in their own eyes, and if it makes the wearer content, why be selfish and only look at it from an outside perspective? I don't wear much make up at all usually, but I have no objection to it.
 
TheSkaFish said:
I'd agree with this idea, that you can accidentally create the very problem you are trying to avoid by projecting your fears subconsciously.

I don't. I think is a cop out made to justify the rejection while putting the responsibility on the rejected.
 
Xpendable said:
TheSkaFish said:
I'd agree with this idea, that you can accidentally create the very problem you are trying to avoid by projecting your fears subconsciously.

I don't. I think is a cop out made to justify the rejection while putting the responsibility on the rejected.

It's called self sabotage, whether you are conscious of it or not, it happens all the time to a lot of people. I'd go so far as to say most people, at some point in their lives.
It's not always the fault of someone else...you know that, right?
 
Xpendable said:
TheSkaFish said:
I'd agree with this idea, that you can accidentally create the very problem you are trying to avoid by projecting your fears subconsciously.

I don't. I think is a cop out made to justify the rejection while putting the responsibility on the rejected.

This seems to imply that blame can be put on the 'rejector' in the first place.
 
Blame can be deduced depending on the context. Sometimes is can be the rejector fault and other time the rejected. No one is putting blame by default.
 
Paraiyar said:
Xpendable said:
TheSkaFish said:
I'd agree with this idea, that you can accidentally create the very problem you are trying to avoid by projecting your fears subconsciously.

I don't. I think is a cop out made to justify the rejection while putting the responsibility on the rejected.

This seems to imply that blame can be put on the 'rejector' in the first place.

I have to agree with this. The person who is rejecting is never at fault. How can you blame someone for not being interested in someone? Just because someone thinks they should have something doesn't mean they should actually get it. If it's not a necessity, they don't need to expect to just have someone agree with them.
 

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