Questions for the Women

[VanillaCreme]

Deliberately avoiding eye contact. It makes me think they are hiding something.

That's a pretty minor thing to consider a man a creep over.

I often don't make consistent eye contact with people I don't know that well, partly due to nervousness, partly because I don't want look like I have a particular interest in them. The fact that I could be labelled a creep for something like that is quite depressing.

Well, the question was for trivial things. And she didn't call you a creep specifically just because you tend to do this. Calm down.

 

[Solivagant]

Indeed I was referring to men whose behaviour made me worry for my own safety. Stalking, staring at my body and not making eye contact, being vulgar, asking me about my sex life before getting to know me well enough, making comments about my body in a sexual way...these are what I consider creepy.

^ This.

 

[TheRealCallie]

Deliberately avoiding eye contact. It makes me think they are hiding something.

That's a pretty minor thing to consider a man a creep over.

I often don't make consistent eye contact with people I don't know that well, partly due to nervousness, partly because I don't want look like I have a particular interest in them. The fact that I could be labelled a creep for something like that is quite depressing.

Unless you are deliberately not making eye contact while looks at my chest, I wouldn't find it creepy at all. There are so many reasons people don't like to make eye contact, I would not fault a guy for that at all.

 

[Alone By Faults]

Ladies,

the couples that you know that have children at home and where the wife initiated the divorce....

Do you feel she was justified in putting her needs above the children having one household in cases where gross physical/emotional abuse nor chemical issues were involved?

 

[TheRealCallie]

Ladies,

the couples that you know that have children at home and where the wife initiated the divorce....

Do you feel she was justified in putting her needs above the children having one household in cases where gross physical/emotional abuse nor chemical issues were involved?

Whoa, wait a minute, why on earth do you think she is putting HER needs over the children's? The children suffer just as much in relationships like that. It's better to get the kids OUT of situations like that instead of sucking it up so they can stay with their father. It is not okay for children to be in a situation like that. Even if they aren't getting the same treatment the mother is, they will see it, they will know.

This, of course is assuming she is taking the kids with her and not leaving them with him.

 

[VanillaCreme]

Ladies,

the couples that you know that have children at home and where the wife initiated the divorce....

Do you feel she was justified in putting her needs above the children having one household in cases where gross physical/emotional abuse nor chemical issues were involved?

If the mother did put her needs before anything else, then I would think she did so so that everything else could be better off. If I don't know about a situation or someone's circumstances, then I wouldn't assume I did simply because of one thing done. There's usually always a reason why something happens or why something's done a certain way.

 

[Solivagant]

Ladies,

the couples that you know that have children at home and where the wife initiated the divorce....

Do you feel she was justified in putting her needs above the children having one household in cases where gross physical/emotional abuse nor chemical issues were involved?

My parents divorced when I was 12, and it was my suggestion. I brought it up with my mother because I could easily see she was very unhappy with my father.

Kids aren't clueless, and I think most of them would much rather see their parents happy apart than unhappy together.

 

[SofiasMami]

Ladies,

the couples that you know that have children at home and where the wife initiated the divorce....

Do you feel she was justified in putting her needs above the children having one household in cases where gross physical/emotional abuse nor chemical issues were involved?

I feel like there is a backstory to your question. If there's no abuse, what is the reason in your backstory for mom leaving dad? Are mom and dad in your scenario still being good parents to the kids even though they are split up? Some parents actually get along better and thus are better parents and role models after they split up. And some parents abandon their kids or turn into vengeful monsters after they split up.
I feel like your question is generalized and hard to answer without specifics.

-Teresa

 

[JHK]

Deliberately avoiding eye contact. It makes me think they are hiding something.

That's a pretty minor thing to consider a man a creep over.

I often don't make consistent eye contact with people I don't know that well, partly due to nervousness, partly because I don't want look like I have a particular interest in them. The fact that I could be labelled a creep for something like that is quite depressing.

Unless you are deliberately not making eye contact while looks at my chest, I wouldn't find it creepy at all. There are so many reasons people don't like to make eye contact, I would not fault a guy for that at all.

I have a hard time with eye contact. I tend to either stare at the ground or look off to the side when I'm talking to someone.
And I find it really un-nerving when someone is staring into my eyes while talking to me all the time. Like they're trying to suck my soul out or something.
And I'm guilty of sneak peeks...

 

[ardour]

If you decide you don't like somebody, can that and does that ever change?

 

[TheRealCallie]

If you decide you don't like somebody, can than and does that ever change?

Yes. As long as you have an open mind about people and life in general, there is always room for a second chance. Depending, of course, on the reason for the dislike.

 

[VanillaCreme]

If you decide you don't like somebody, can that and does that ever change?

Don't like them, as in... how?

 

[Alone By Faults]

Ok response to the replies to the divorced mom question....

Area where I live in has a lot of one main income families...the husband would be employed in auto factories, skilled trades, or whatever where they forced 50 to 60 hours a week...

THe men go to work, provide for their families, and according to the women never laid a hand on them in anger nor had cheated on them (believed most of them..some would lie due to embarassment)

Anyways...they would be 15 to 20 years in the marriage...have children still in the 5 to 9 range and divorce their husbands, take half of his retirement, and get alimony because the husband was forced to work too much by the company and she just became unenfranchised...

 

[VanillaCreme]

Ok response to the replies to the divorced mom question....

Area where I live in has a lot of one main income families...the husband would be employed in auto factories, skilled trades, or whatever where they forced 50 to 60 hours a week...

THe men go to work, provide for their families, and according to the women never laid a hand on them in anger nor had cheated on them (believed most of them..some would lie due to embarassment)

Anyways...they would be 15 to 20 years in the marriage...have children still in the 5 to 9 range and divorce their husbands, take half of his retirement, and get alimony because the husband was forced to work too much by the company and she just became unenfranchised...

Do you really know any of these people? I would think that a lot of those situations vary depending on the people. To blanket one circumstance and one opinion over all of them is pretty hollow. You'd have to talk to most, if not all of them, in order to what would be fair. And even if you did do just that, what's fair for them still might not be fair in your eyes. Believe it or not, some husbands (or ex-husbands) and fathers do give the mother of their children or ex-wives more than what's necessary for their own reasons.

 

[Alone By Faults]

It is true that I will never be in possession of the facts or even an unslanted view of this...just looking at the outside at so many women prompting divorces from their husbands who have to work 50 plus hours a week...

Im done with this line of questioning

thank you all

 

[Triple Bogey]

Why do women tend to believe all that tarot card, physic reading, looking into the future garbage ?
I've never met a bloke who believes it and I've only met a few women who don't.
It seems to be a woman thing.
Why waste money on this garbage ?

 

[TheRealCallie]

Why do women tend to believe all that tarot card, physic reading, looking into the future garbage ?
I've never met a bloke who believes it and I've only met a few women who don't.
It seems to be a woman thing.
Why waste money on this garbage ?

I don't and neither do any of the other women I know...okay, maybe one or two of them do. I do know a few guys who buy into it though.

 

[SofiasMami]

Why do women tend to believe all that tarot card, physic reading, looking into the future garbage ?
I've never met a bloke who believes it and I've only met a few women who don't.
It seems to be a woman thing.
Why waste money on this garbage ?

I can't speak for other women but I personally don't believe in any of that although I used to be a bit more gullible to it in my younger years. Anything related to supernatural beliefs is a load of bunk. Give me some science, that a far bigger turn-on for me than superstitions.

-Teresa

 

[VanillaCreme]

Why do women tend to believe all that tarot card, physic reading, looking into the future garbage ?
I've never met a bloke who believes it and I've only met a few women who don't.
It seems to be a woman thing.
Why waste money on this garbage ?

Wasn't it believed in the olden ages that women were more prone to other-worldly experiences? Although, seers in some mythology were men. There are guys into it. I don't really know anyone really into it. I think it's interesting, but I wouldn't rely on it.

 

[Triple Bogey]

Why do women tend to believe all that tarot card, physic reading, looking into the future garbage ?
I've never met a bloke who believes it and I've only met a few women who don't.
It seems to be a woman thing.
Why waste money on this garbage ?

I can't speak for other women but I personally don't believe in any of that although I used to be a bit more gullible to it in my younger years. Anything related to supernatural beliefs is a load of bunk. Give me some science, that a far bigger turn-on for me than superstitions.

-Teresa

Good for you.