What men vs what women want

[Edward W]

I have to say I think this thread is making me embarrassed to be a guy on this site, I'm not sure what you are trying to find out.

I don't think it matters if you are a man or woman in the examples above; it's obvious it's a ****** situation to be in.

At the end of the day we all pretty much want the same things, to be happy, to have someone who loves us; I don't think gender comes into it.

There are differences between men and woman, but it just seems like you want women to carte blanche admit they are trying to screw men over somehow, that’s a sweeping statement that’s a bit insulting and I'm just cringing reading anymore.

There will be some very selfish men and women out there who will take serious advantage, maybe it's happened to you, in which case I'm sorry, but not everyone thinks that way.

 

[RB46]

I love that the guy who said "women have it easy", has written as a tag line "don't judge anyone untill you have walked a mile in their shoes"!!!!!!!!
So, I can only assume that you think it's okay for you to judge others, you just dont want anyone else to judge you?
Posts like this always make me rofl for a bit until i realise that it is idiotic comments like this that encourage women to have a negative stereotype of men. So, you making those comments actually makes my life more difficult as a single man trying to find a partner, thanks a bunch mate!

 

[WildernessWildChild]

I love that the guy who said "women have it easy", has written as a tag line "don't judge anyone untill you have walked a mile in their shoes"!!!!!!!!
So, I can only assume that you think it's okay for you to judge others, you just dont want anyone else to judge you?
Posts like this always make me rofl for a bit until i realise that it is idiotic comments like this that encourage women to have a negative stereotype of men. So, you making those comments actually makes my life more difficult as a single man trying to find a partner, thanks a bunch mate!

Not that BJD needs defending but I seriously think you need to read his post again and see the subtle irony in what he's said- you're reading it entirely too literally. If you read posts previous to his you'll hopefully get the sarcasm in his response.

You've also quoted part of the tag line, by not referring to the entire quote you've changed it's interpretation. Picking and choosing like that can change the context of anything you read.

Sigh....

 

[Drew88]

I love that the guy who said "women have it easy", has written as a tag line "don't judge anyone untill you have walked a mile in their shoes"!!!!!!!!
So, I can only assume that you think it's okay for you to judge others, you just dont want anyone else to judge you?
Posts like this always make me rofl for a bit until i realise that it is idiotic comments like this that encourage women to have a negative stereotype of men. So, you making those comments actually makes my life more difficult as a single man trying to find a partner, thanks a bunch mate!

I wish I could live in a woman's shoe. would give so much perspective.

 

[Badjedidude]

I love that the guy who said "women have it easy", has written as a tag line "don't judge anyone untill you have walked a mile in their shoes"!!!!!!!!
So, I can only assume that you think it's okay for you to judge others, you just dont want anyone else to judge you?
Posts like this always make me rofl for a bit until i realise that it is idiotic comments like this that encourage women to have a negative stereotype of men. So, you making those comments actually makes my life more difficult as a single man trying to find a partner, thanks a bunch mate!

I love it that you run headlong into situations without any observational awareness whatsoever, but...

For your information, I was being sarcastic when I posted that. Everyone on here who knows me will understand that. I posted that mostly to tease EveWasFramed.

So thanks again for rushing into judging me without stopping to take a look around and gauge your response according to the information you could have gathered on me that would've allowed you to understand where I was coming from when I posted that.

Yup.

 

[Edward W]

^ Just to lighten the mood around here, it was only last night I worked out your name is Bad Jedi Dude - I was reading it as one long name, in my head it was like 'Beetlejuice'

Well thats what I think it is anyway, if not then it's a good anagram of that.

 

[defenestrate]

Hey Regumika. I've noticed that you made some very thoughtful and kind messages here before.

Pardon me, but the original questions that you've asked, do they have anything to do with how your feeling? Did you have a bad life and struggle with it? Was this thread originally about you, and your own personal beliefs? I ask only out of concern.

Men who are rape survivors often do go unreported. Men who are abused are poorly perceived by both peers and emergency first responders. Men also have higher suicide rates, possibly because of a different support network than women. Society's attitude for men with a bad life does hold a very negative connotation attached to it. And that attitude is often a very different experience for women who have also had a bad life. Those are all generalizations and I'm sorry if they offend anyone. Social psychology is defined through sweeping generalizations and this is a really, really serious and morbid concern worthy of further research and understanding. But please let me politely remind everybody that nobody chooses to experience a traumatic and painful past. Please be respectful and considerate of each other no matter what gender a person happens to be.

 

[Regumika]

Defensetrate - Thank you for your consideration.

No, I do not have such issues you listed. The biggest 'issue' that I can point to is growing up without a father, a male head. I have never been abused. Never been neglected (different from solitude and unpopular). I may be considered lonely to some, but I was pretty satisfied. Currently, not that I don't have issues. I do have them. But they are not traumatic as the society deems as traumatic (rape/abuse).

There really was no reason to the original post besides the fact that I just want some non judgmental input. There have been some good input too. I am the type of person that will just formulate, simulate, calculate. Pro vs Con. Behavior. Natural reaction. Objective. and I try to understand. But it seems like its a dead discussion, as it got hostile quite quickly. -- which of course gave me more data on how human beings behave, under certain conditions, etc etc etc...

 

[defenestrate]

I'm glad to hear you only wanted a discussion. There was a personal spin on things and I couldn't tell whether or not you needed to talk. Please remember that any hardship you do experience is no little or simple thing. It doesn't matter whether or not other people deem it serious enough. How you feel does matter and you are important.

 

[perfanoff]

Of course it is a traumatic experience.

http://www.photius.com/feminocracy/facts_on_fatherless_kids.html

All the mothers and women who plan to be mothers in the future, please read slowly that webpage for your children's sake.

 

[PyramidHead]

so, typically, why is it okay for women to be picky about men, but men cant be picky about women? like, women would cry about finding this one attractive man, understands, cares, blah blah blah BUT... he has this one issue (say anger or depression).

because what seems to me is that it is okay for a woman with shortcomings to find a prince charming, but its not okay for a man with issues to find a princess. what gives?

Well, I can't speak for other parts of the world, but over here, it actually is kind of okay, because it is kind of like in economy. If you set your price too high, nobody will buy you... and there always are a lot of willing guys, so it's not like you can play a lot with your value on the market. All you need is luck to find the right person, who takes you home.

I'm a bit closer to the lucky side lately, so I guess I may try to raise my value a bit, to see if someone is still interested when I'm not that easy to get. Or maybe not... I guess flirting with a shy guy like me is already hard enough.

 

[Gutted]

Excellent question OP. I see what you mean too. I know plenty of Men who would make good honest partners. But they always have trouble when it comes to Girls. At the same time I know plenty of Men who make rubbish partners and yet they never have trouble with Girls.

Now I can't answer your question but I do think I know why the above happens. Some Guys at some point pluck up the courage to attract a Girl in some way. From my EXP, the Guy usually tries this at a young age and by causing some sort of trouble. The Girl finds it cool and fun and so she likes the Guy. This gives the Guy an initial confidence boost which then causes him to cause more trouble and try to attract more Girls. As time passes his rep picks up and other Girls find him cool and fun. This boosts his confidence and he feels like it is nothing to get with Girls. Why does he appeal to Girls? Because he comes across as very masculine and in a primal way, like a good mate.

 

[RB46]

I stand corrected... again! (dammit!). I sneaked onto the forum when I was supposed to be working so I guess I didn't read it properly. Thanks for letting me know gently.

 

[EveWasFramed]

I can educate women that not all men are like that.

No, you cannot.
If a woman based her opinion on the opposite sex by the posts you (and quite a few others over the years) have made on this forum, she'd likely run like hell in the opposite direction of ANY man. Be glad that women know not ALL men are bitter, mysogynistic dolts and that there are some truly decent guys out there.

 

[ardour]

okay... so because guys have posted similar topics in the past that gives you the all-clear to condemn any man that does so as an idiot.

 

[EveWasFramed]

okay... so because guys have posted similar topics in the past that gives you the all-clear to condemn any man that does so as an idiot.

It's not about TOPIC - it's about attitude towards the opposite sex. And, I will go ahead and point out that YOU are one of those who make such comments. Also, I never called anyone an idiot.

 

[mintymint]

okay... so because guys have posted similar topics in the past that gives you the all-clear to condemn any man that does so as an idiot.

It's not about TOPIC - it's about attitude towards the opposite sex. And, I will go ahead and point out that YOU are one of those who make such comments. Also, I never called anyone an idiot.

I do know several people who have left the forum due to there being a frequent presence of misogynistic sentiments. It's unfortunate; they were good members.

 

[LonelyLola]

I don't get why guys chase these apparently shallow, spoiled females. Men of this ALL, if you feel women have it easier because they ge to pickier, they have the power, I ask you, where are you finding them?

I speak with many women in the health office I run at my university, over my life I have had many emails friends, I am a mostly hetero female, and I want to know why you put up with these women? Because they are pretty? I know pretty geeks, pretty nerds, pretty chubby girls and pretty introverts who don't get to be picky if they want a boyfriend. For ***** sake, maybe, if women are continually not choosing you, maybe it could be you?

Maybe you are overlooking the girls who don't match your own bias to what is desired. And you know what, THAT IS OK. You get to decide what your requirements for a mate are. Just be warned, if your ideal is that girl that turns out to be whiney, spoiled and shallow, you chose her. Just like if we ladies choose a rude, self centred ******* we are asking to feel unappreciated and unhappy.

 

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

I don't get anywhere. That's the point.

If I met someone who said "maybe", maybe I would not be so troubled. But it seems like every single woman who is in their 20's or 30's won't give me a chance.

 

[Smokey]

I've never seen soo many fully grown bed wetters in one thread in my entirrrrre life!