Regumika
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I think the issue the repliers here are facing is culture. It has been mentioned a few times (history, and how women are treated as property). I live in United States, in the city. A fast paced society about satisfying 'now' and also getting by and planning for a future. Here, your life can change in the snap of a finger. Things are very spontaneous here. Change happens all the time. Not to mention opportunities.
However, there are more country/remote places in the US. Where things are slower. People know each other. Old houses. More traditions. Jobs will last 10 years or more and is considered normal that you don't change jobs. In the city, If you work at a place for more than 3 years and still stuck at the bottom of the ladder, you're doing something wrong, incapable.
I am going to assume that other places in the world have both ends of the spectrum too. So depends on where you live, the life styles there in the vicinity, 'generalization' will be different.
Perhaps I spoke too soon when I generalized and forgot to mention the target audience. There might be people here where culture (traditions/laws) might still partially/fully be in effect (arranged marriages). However as a whole, I believe it hasn't been very long since women were free to choose for themselves.
I'm going to take a stab at this and probably shoot myself in the foot. English (like England) movies show that hierarchy was a huge factor in your life. Relationships followed your class (worth). Getting out of your class is difficult. And often you are expected to do things that you don't want to. (they make such awesome forbidden love stories). ... and of course, this isn't just England. Many other countries are similar to this in the past.
Men of course are generalized as well. "is she hot? can she cook? can she do my laundry? good in bed? im sold!" we're not talking about exceptions. I KNOW there are people that break stereotype. I am trying to discuss.. what IS the stereotype. I am giving my opinion on what I think is stereotype. Don't tell me all the people you know that break it, tell me what you think the stereotype is.
Something someone said made me think of this... 'skeptical'.
Both men and women are skeptical of each other. (and again I stereotype). Men are skeptical that women like them for their money and status (men that don't have either end up not trying, because they have tried and been denied, or never caught any attention in the first place). Women are skeptical that men have ulterior motives and just want sex in the end, once they get sex, women are dumped in the corner. Or, that men put up a front and end up being abusive.
So, stereotype. Don't tell me those that break it, tell me if you agree or disagree that it is the stereotype. And express what you think the stereotype is if you disagree.
This is out of order for my reply. But in my Planet (United States), the answer is Disney. Let's not take it personal and try to educate each other.
Isn't that pretty much what a princess wants? With the exception of money (is successful at life, but that doesn't mean rich). I'm not attacking you. This is good discussion. Can you elaborate on what "pampered princess" means?
However, there are more country/remote places in the US. Where things are slower. People know each other. Old houses. More traditions. Jobs will last 10 years or more and is considered normal that you don't change jobs. In the city, If you work at a place for more than 3 years and still stuck at the bottom of the ladder, you're doing something wrong, incapable.
I am going to assume that other places in the world have both ends of the spectrum too. So depends on where you live, the life styles there in the vicinity, 'generalization' will be different.
Perhaps I spoke too soon when I generalized and forgot to mention the target audience. There might be people here where culture (traditions/laws) might still partially/fully be in effect (arranged marriages). However as a whole, I believe it hasn't been very long since women were free to choose for themselves.
I'm going to take a stab at this and probably shoot myself in the foot. English (like England) movies show that hierarchy was a huge factor in your life. Relationships followed your class (worth). Getting out of your class is difficult. And often you are expected to do things that you don't want to. (they make such awesome forbidden love stories). ... and of course, this isn't just England. Many other countries are similar to this in the past.
Men of course are generalized as well. "is she hot? can she cook? can she do my laundry? good in bed? im sold!" we're not talking about exceptions. I KNOW there are people that break stereotype. I am trying to discuss.. what IS the stereotype. I am giving my opinion on what I think is stereotype. Don't tell me all the people you know that break it, tell me what you think the stereotype is.
Something someone said made me think of this... 'skeptical'.
Both men and women are skeptical of each other. (and again I stereotype). Men are skeptical that women like them for their money and status (men that don't have either end up not trying, because they have tried and been denied, or never caught any attention in the first place). Women are skeptical that men have ulterior motives and just want sex in the end, once they get sex, women are dumped in the corner. Or, that men put up a front and end up being abusive.
So, stereotype. Don't tell me those that break it, tell me if you agree or disagree that it is the stereotype. And express what you think the stereotype is if you disagree.
EveWasFramed said:
This is out of order for my reply. But in my Planet (United States), the answer is Disney. Let's not take it personal and try to educate each other.
LonelyLola said:
Isn't that pretty much what a princess wants? With the exception of money (is successful at life, but that doesn't mean rich). I'm not attacking you. This is good discussion. Can you elaborate on what "pampered princess" means?
